Ramadan - Page 3

Sundae · 09-09-2008, 06:18 AM

I admit it's poor planning.

I wasn't really intending to defend the council so vehemently - it's just that there's a theme in the right wing newspapers that England kow-tows to Muslims, and it's found its way onto this board. When you read the facts it simply isn't true, but I guess when you sling enough mud some sticks.

On a related but separate topic, it reminded me of a story a friend told me about a wedding she attended. They had a chocolate wedding cake (as did I) and there was a little boy who started grizzling because he wanted some. Rather than tell the child, "No means no, that's a special cake" the mother went and asked the mother of the bride if they could bring forward the cutting of the cake because her son wanted some now. And she considered it! It must be a mother thing. Her daughter (childless) said absolutely not, they would cut it at the evening reception as planned.

lookout123 · 09-09-2008, 12:17 PM

and then they cut the little bastard's throat before throwing him in the dumpster. i'm certain his mother will teach her other children to sit quietly and not beg for cake now.

Aliantha · 09-09-2008, 06:27 PM

It's likely that the majority of the catering staff are volunteers who'd like to go home before the boring meeting starts, so they put the food out on covered trays and simply ask that people refrain until the break, out of courtesy to those who can't join them till then.

I wouldn't have a problem with this request, just as I'm sure no one would have a problem with any of the diabetics in the group having a sandwich when they needed to do so either.

If you don't think it's fair to wait, then go ahead and eat. Just don't eat everything in sight unless you insist on being a real arsehole.

Trilby · 09-09-2008, 08:04 PM

Food For Thought: Diabetes is a medical condition--not a choice

Aliantha · 09-09-2008, 08:06 PM

A lot of people are diabetic through bad choices in the past too.

lookout123 · 09-10-2008, 10:44 AM

i definitely would not eat the catered food before everyone else did. that would just be rude. i would, however, very loudly and obnoxiously chow down on the HUGE effing pork sandwich I brought with me. Being the nice guy I am I'd even offer them some. I'd send it around on a little tray strapped to my dog's back. Who could resist a pork sandwich offered by a friendly dog?

Rexmons · 09-10-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hampor

My wife's parents fast, and there are some practical techniques that help.

They get up and eat a heavy breakfast, something like three eggs with onions cooked in lots of butter. Next comes six glasses of water and brushing your teeth. Then they go back to sleep until 10.

I personally don't do this because I tend to be more hungry during the day. It's like when you eat a big meal right before you go to sleep you wake up starving, same thing. I normally wake up and take down a gatorade or a green tea.

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They also do it at the official time which means you have to be done before twilight.

You're right, I have to begin fasting at like 5:00am when it's pitch dark outside and break fast at like 7:00pm when it's still quite bright out.

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It's the not drinking part that's the hardest.

The first day or two most people are starving come sundown. After that like you said, you're just thirsty, and God help you if you're a smoker.

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Traditionally, the first thing that you eat after sunset is dates and water.

They say it's best to break fast with this because this is what the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) broke his fast with.

Concerning the whole council meeting request thing: I don't think they're asking the non-Muslims to wait until after dark to begin eating because it's not fair to eat in front of fasting Muslims. Trust me we're used to it. The real reason they're asking is so theres something left for people who you've asked to attend your meeting instead of being home breaking fast with friends and family.

On a side note I just want to say I like fasting, I don't do it because God requires it of me I do it to show my love for God. Another reason is because it's the only time I deprive myself of practically anything. If I crave something any other time of year (food, drink, smoke, sex) I can pretty much have it within hours, but during the holy month it isn't the case. The bitter makes the sweet that much sweeter.

HungLikeJesus · 09-10-2008, 02:13 PM

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They say it's best to break fast with this because this is what the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) broke his fast with.

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You're saying it's best to do it this way because that's the way you've always done it? How will you ever make any progress?

Phage0070 · 09-11-2008, 01:48 PM

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You're saying it's best to do it this way because that's the way you've always done it? How will you ever make any progress?

Progress? Come on, this is RELIGION. Progress is devil-work!

TheMercenary · 09-11-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

"PC gone wild" is a ridiculous cliche and removes you from the conversation, sorry.

If you don't think there are plenty of examples of PC gone wild around you are sorely mistaken, but I would never "remove you from the conversation" because of simple statement you made to express your views, but hey, that's just me.

Sundae · 09-12-2008, 11:39 AM

It's a horrible cliche. Surely some punishment is due...?

09-09-2008, 12:17 PM	#32
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	and then they cut the little bastard's throat before throwing him in the dumpster. i'm certain his mother will teach her other children to sit quietly and not beg for cake now. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

09-09-2008, 06:27 PM	#33
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	It's likely that the majority of the catering staff are volunteers who'd like to go home before the boring meeting starts, so they put the food out on covered trays and simply ask that people refrain until the break, out of courtesy to those who can't join them till then. I wouldn't have a problem with this request, just as I'm sure no one would have a problem with any of the diabetics in the group having a sandwich when they needed to do so either. If you don't think it's fair to wait, then go ahead and eat. Just don't eat everything in sight unless you insist on being a real arsehole. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

09-09-2008, 08:04 PM	#34
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Food For Thought: Diabetes is a medical condition--not a choice __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

09-09-2008, 08:06 PM	#35
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	A lot of people are diabetic through bad choices in the past too. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

09-10-2008, 10:44 AM	#36
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	i definitely would not eat the catered food before everyone else did. that would just be rude. i would, however, very loudly and obnoxiously chow down on the HUGE effing pork sandwich I brought with me. Being the nice guy I am I'd even offer them some. I'd send it around on a little tray strapped to my dog's back. Who could resist a pork sandwich offered by a friendly dog? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

09-09-2008, 06:18 AM	#31
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I admit it's poor planning. I wasn't really intending to defend the council so vehemently - it's just that there's a theme in the right wing newspapers that England kow-tows to Muslims, and it's found its way onto this board. When you read the facts it simply isn't true, but I guess when you sling enough mud some sticks. On a related but separate topic, it reminded me of a story a friend told me about a wedding she attended. They had a chocolate wedding cake (as did I) and there was a little boy who started grizzling because he wanted some. Rather than tell the child, "No means no, that's a special cake" the mother went and asked the mother of the bride if they could bring forward the cutting of the cake because her son wanted some now. And she considered it! It must be a mother thing. Her daughter (childless) said absolutely not, they would cut it at the evening reception as planned.

09-12-2008, 11:39 AM	#41
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	It's a horrible cliche. Surely some punishment is due...?

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