Middle East erupts - Page 3

Ibby · 07-15-2006, 06:41 PM

It wouldn't just be both of you, it would escalate... it always does, doesnt it? she'll get her head-doctor buddies after you... you'll get your friends... etc.

Ragnarok is the North End Myth.

Pie · 07-15-2006, 08:57 PM

Oh. I thought it came from Dr. Who.

smoothmoniker · 07-15-2006, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ridgeplate

I still think we should give the whole area to China ... the whole region should be run by as a-religious a goverment as we have available to us.

Seems to me the Soviet Union tried that already in Afghanistan. Didn't work out so well.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-16-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

So, I wonder what all the jews that moved in 2004 to escape all the hatred think about being in Israel now?

No, really, I have no idea why anyone would want to move from the US to that perpetual hotspot.

For Israel, it's a good thing. They're going to need a lot of people to populate the *New Expanded Israel*....now with 5 times the real estate.

MaggieL · 07-16-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

They're going to need a lot of people to populate the *New Expanded Israel*....now with 5 times the real estate.

What goes around comes around.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-17-2006, 01:33 PM

But that just gives them more border to defend, not solve the problem which is animosity toward them by the Muslims. There's nothing they can do about that.

I was watching the Americans in Lebanon bitching about the US not coming to get them immediately. They want Uncle Sam to drop everything and send a flying taxi, NOW.

When are people going to grasp, when you cross the US border, you're at risk. What's so hard to understand about going into another country puts you in their sandbox where they play their game by their rules.

Attention citizens, if they didn't haul your ass out of New Orleans during a flood, why do you think they'd haul your ass out of someplace there's shooting going on?
Don't send your kid to school in a potential war zone. Don't even get me started on that oxymoron "Dual Citizenship".

richlevy · 07-17-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Attention citizens, if they didn't haul your ass out of New Orleans during a flood, why do you think they'd haul your ass out of someplace there's shooting going on?

Um, because they're rich and white? Let's not forget the Med school students in Grenada.

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A publicised tactical concern of the United States was the safe recovery of U.S. nationals enrolled at St. George's University.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-17-2006, 02:08 PM

That was bullshit. The Cubans building an airport was the concern, the rest just spin, PR, fluff, whatever you call it.....bullshit.

richlevy · 07-17-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

That was bullshit. The Cubans building an airport was the concern, the rest just spin, PR, fluff, whatever you call it.....bullshit.

What would a war be without Public Information Officers?

capnhowdy · 07-17-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

What would a war be without Public Information Officers?

A covert op.

07-18-2006, 06:16 AM

Dominique de Villepin , the French Prime Minister , was sent to the Lebanon yesterday . France is expressing its solidarity with the Lebanon very clearly .

Spexxvet · 07-18-2006, 08:21 AM

So France is supporting those who initiated aggression? That seems a little inconsistent.

Undertoad · 07-18-2006, 08:43 AM

No, this is where it gets tricky, Lebanon didn't initiate. Lebanon is a bit more progressive than other area nations, and although they hate Israel to different degrees, it's not the core principle bloodlusty jihad type of hate. The problem is that Lebanon can't refuse Hisballah, a non-governmental, terroristic organization roughly run out of Syria and supported by Iran.

I think the real government and army can't deny Hisballah partly because Hisballah is liked (like the mob, they provide social services); partly because they are the common enemy of Israel; and mostly because leaders who fight Hisballah are almost always assassinated.

So the Israeli actions are to try to disarm Hisballah, because Hisballah was clearly gearing up for more adventurous war, and a UN demand that Hisballah disarm was clearly ignored.

And if the Lebanese can manage to reduce Hisballah's power in their country, they will not fight Israel, and will continue to move ahead with their fledgling Democracy. Lebanon will become a really awesome nation and we will all go to Beruit on holiday. This is what I hope.

Kitsune · 07-18-2006, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

So France is supporting those who initiated aggression? That seems a little inconsistent.

France supports Lebanon regaining control over its country and borders.

Spexxvet · 07-18-2006, 09:25 AM

Gotcha - there's a difference between the legitimate government of Lebanon, which the French support, and the Hezballah, who militantly oppose Israel.

07-15-2006, 06:41 PM	#31
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	It wouldn't just be both of you, it would escalate... it always does, doesnt it? she'll get her head-doctor buddies after you... you'll get your friends... etc. Ragnarok is the North End Myth. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

07-15-2006, 08:57 PM	#32
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Oh. I thought it came from Dr. Who. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

07-17-2006, 01:33 PM	#36
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But that just gives them more border to defend, not solve the problem which is animosity toward them by the Muslims. There's nothing they can do about that. I was watching the Americans in Lebanon bitching about the US not coming to get them immediately. They want Uncle Sam to drop everything and send a flying taxi, NOW. When are people going to grasp, when you cross the US border, you're at risk. What's so hard to understand about going into another country puts you in their sandbox where they play their game by their rules. Attention citizens, if they didn't haul your ass out of New Orleans during a flood, why do you think they'd haul your ass out of someplace there's shooting going on? Don't send your kid to school in a potential war zone. Don't even get me started on that oxymoron "Dual Citizenship". __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-17-2006, 02:08 PM	#38
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That was bullshit. The Cubans building an airport was the concern, the rest just spin, PR, fluff, whatever you call it.....bullshit. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-18-2006, 08:21 AM	#42
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	So France is supporting those who initiated aggression? That seems a little inconsistent. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

07-18-2006, 06:16 AM	#41
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	Dominique de Villepin , the French Prime Minister , was sent to the Lebanon yesterday . France is expressing its solidarity with the Lebanon very clearly .

07-18-2006, 08:43 AM	#43
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	No, this is where it gets tricky, Lebanon didn't initiate. Lebanon is a bit more progressive than other area nations, and although they hate Israel to different degrees, it's not the core principle bloodlusty jihad type of hate. The problem is that Lebanon can't refuse Hisballah, a non-governmental, terroristic organization roughly run out of Syria and supported by Iran. I think the real government and army can't deny Hisballah partly because Hisballah is liked (like the mob, they provide social services); partly because they are the common enemy of Israel; and mostly because leaders who fight Hisballah are almost always assassinated. So the Israeli actions are to try to disarm Hisballah, because Hisballah was clearly gearing up for more adventurous war, and a UN demand that Hisballah disarm was clearly ignored. And if the Lebanese can manage to reduce Hisballah's power in their country, they will not fight Israel, and will continue to move ahead with their fledgling Democracy. Lebanon will become a really awesome nation and we will all go to Beruit on holiday. This is what I hope.

07-18-2006, 09:25 AM	#45
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Gotcha - there's a difference between the legitimate government of Lebanon, which the French support, and the Hezballah, who militantly oppose Israel. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

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