2/11/2004: Hoarfrost - Page 3

xoxoxoBruce · 03-09-2004, 07:47 PM

I knew what it was. Probably because I'm attuned to any words that sound like they might be dirty. I look them up right away.

richlevy · 03-09-2004, 08:11 PM

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Uryoces · 03-09-2004, 09:25 PM

I've heard of it before, seen it a few times. It does form once in a while at southern edge of Puget Sound where my parents live. It does get a bit misty/freezy at times. I tell you, cold and damp is worse than very cold.

noodles · 03-09-2004, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
official result: 27,932,882.33.

thank u again lumberjim. and this brings me to a further, probably sillier, question:
what does that official result mean? Does that mean 27,932,882,33 know the word in question, or do not know? Or u may be kind enough to supply me with a link. I do need statistics, coz i am now struggling with a paper on western reader response for english translations from chinese poetry.

And if it so happens that u are interested in chinese poetry, please go to the Entertainment Section of our cellar. i just posted a poem by Mao Zedong, the late President of China. Comments and evaluation are welcome.

lumberjim · 03-09-2004, 11:38 PM

Quote:

"have you ever heard the word 'hoarfrost'?" official result: 27,932,882.33.

those would be the "yes" answers. I see that you are well versed in the sarcastis ways. But there is something you do not know....."I am noh leff handed!.... And, I ahavva study my grippa. "

That, and my dog ate the link to those statistics. It was the only link there, too. sorry.

I read that poem this morning, and I like it. I think I liked the literal, choppy translation better, though. It was more metaphoric, and direct. In our poetry, ryhmes are optional, but effective. Imagery is more powerful still.

noodles · 03-09-2004, 11:59 PM

lumberjim, i suspect u misunderstood me, but i may be wrong. english is not my native tongue, and i sometimes cannot succeed getting my idea across, but i never meant to be sarcastic, though, as luck would have it, the reader may well feel that way. sorry for my poor style.

And, to be honest, i could not understand all the cuts and turns in your message, since it has much slang, in which case, my dictionaries refuse to help.

hope this time i said what i meant.

lumberjim · 03-10-2004, 12:22 AM

ah. right. i though you were deadpan asking me for my stats because you knew very well that i made it all up. deadpan means "with no laughter in your face" or "sraight faced" ...meaning to say or do something funny, but with a serious face, just to make it more funny. the slang was a couple of quotes from a scene in the movie "Princess Bride" where two sworsmen parry. more metaphors

noodles · 03-10-2004, 02:01 AM

Wow! quotes from your movie, swordsmen parrying! Bet you never expected my wild interpretations, eh?

forget it.

languages differ;cultures collide;but peoples understand once within the cellar over coffee, and hoarfrost.

i was trying to cast off my deadpan. hope i made it.

been learning english some 20 years, but just found that true language competence can never be learned, but acquired and lived.

thank u for your timely replies.

wolf · 03-10-2004, 02:10 AM

In language acquisition, practice makes imperfect.

No native speakers of languages speak them as they are taught, or use "proper" grammatical construction. Practice with native speakers is the best way to learn ... listening to spoken conversation (not specifically recorded to go along with a text book stuff) much better.

When I was learning German we had to listen to taped radio interviews. The announcer would usually speak "textbook" German, but the person being interviewed would speak more or less normally ... there are a lot of dialect differences even in a small country like that ... and the differences in spoken English can be much more dramatic.

noodles · 03-10-2004, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf
In language acquisition, practice makes imperfect.

that's the way the cookie crumbles here in our country, where english is learned not as a living language, but as rules and grammar that impede rather than facilitate our linguistic competence.

Undertoad · 03-10-2004, 06:30 AM

But if you can say "rules and grammar that impede rather than facilitate our linguistic competence", you are a very good student.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-10-2004, 06:24 PM

Noodles, if you really need statistics, don't rely on LumberJim.

lumberjim · 03-10-2004, 06:27 PM

hush, bruce. he's new, and doesn't know that i'm a fraud yet. you are violating the prime directive. let him make his own discoveries.

mrnoodle · 03-10-2004, 09:51 PM

Although no one has ever seen us together, noodles and I are, in fact, two separate people. It's easily proven with one observation.

noodles is smart.

noodles · 03-10-2004, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrnoodle
Although no one has ever seen us together, noodles and I are, in fact, two separate people. It's easily proven with one observation.

noodles is smart.

unconscious plagiarism

"smart"? smartass

03-09-2004, 07:47 PM	#31
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I knew what it was. Probably because I'm attuned to any words that sound like they might be dirty. I look them up right away. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-09-2004, 08:11 PM	#32
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	No entry found for asshat. Did you mean ass hat? Suggestions: as shat as-shat ass hat ass-hat assh at assh-at assat ashet aashto ashto aasha assart achate asha assh shat ssht ahat asat asst asshur acht ashd osht aisha ashaa ashai assia aesat arhat ashan assad asset assot asstt ashed aucht ichat tosshat aasta ahaat asata ashanti assert assort cushat earshot acheta ahta asdar ashlar shta __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

03-09-2004, 09:25 PM	#33
Uryoces 2nd Covenant, yo Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pugetropolis Posts: 583	I've heard of it before, seen it a few times. It does form once in a while at southern edge of Puget Sound where my parents live. It does get a bit misty/freezy at times. I tell you, cold and damp is worse than very cold. __________________ The party's over ... the drink ... and the luck ... ran out.

03-10-2004, 12:22 AM	#37
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	ah. right. i though you were deadpan asking me for my stats because you knew very well that i made it all up. deadpan means "with no laughter in your face" or "sraight faced" ...meaning to say or do something funny, but with a serious face, just to make it more funny. the slang was a couple of quotes from a scene in the movie "Princess Bride" where two sworsmen parry. more metaphors __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-10-2004, 02:10 AM	#39
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	In language acquisition, practice makes imperfect. No native speakers of languages speak them as they are taught, or use "proper" grammatical construction. Practice with native speakers is the best way to learn ... listening to spoken conversation (not specifically recorded to go along with a text book stuff) much better. When I was learning German we had to listen to taped radio interviews. The announcer would usually speak "textbook" German, but the person being interviewed would speak more or less normally ... there are a lot of dialect differences even in a small country like that ... and the differences in spoken English can be much more dramatic. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-09-2004, 11:59 PM	#36
noodles Wet Nurse's Aide Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 40	lumberjim, i suspect u misunderstood me, but i may be wrong. english is not my native tongue, and i sometimes cannot succeed getting my idea across, but i never meant to be sarcastic, though, as luck would have it, the reader may well feel that way. sorry for my poor style. And, to be honest, i could not understand all the cuts and turns in your message, since it has much slang, in which case, my dictionaries refuse to help. hope this time i said what i meant.

03-10-2004, 02:01 AM	#38
noodles Wet Nurse's Aide Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 40	Wow! quotes from your movie, swordsmen parrying! Bet you never expected my wild interpretations, eh? forget it. languages differ;cultures collide;but peoples understand once within the cellar over coffee, and hoarfrost. i was trying to cast off my deadpan. hope i made it. been learning english some 20 years, but just found that true language competence can never be learned, but acquired and lived. thank u for your timely replies.

03-10-2004, 06:30 AM	#41
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	But if you can say "rules and grammar that impede rather than facilitate our linguistic competence", you are a very good student.

03-10-2004, 06:24 PM	#42
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Noodles, if you really need statistics, don't rely on LumberJim. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-10-2004, 06:27 PM	#43
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	hush, bruce. he's new, and doesn't know that i'm a fraud yet. you are violating the prime directive. let him make his own discoveries. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-10-2004, 09:51 PM	#44
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	Although no one has ever seen us together, noodles and I are, in fact, two separate people. It's easily proven with one observation. noodles is smart.

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