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Old 03-14-2002, 01:18 PM   #1
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Re: Nic, from your article

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Originally posted by Nothing But Net
The question is, what can WE do. Any ideas?
Stop paying our biggest share of foreign aid to a welfare nation now run by a racist government. Demand Isreal leave foriegn lands. Demand that UN 242 and the Oslo Accords be the only basis of discussion for any Israeli government. That would kick the supports right out from under Prime Minister Dichead and bring back a government that can bring peace - anything that is not Likud.

Force the world to commit to what it previously called for or stop calling for things they will not commit to. Either they shit of get off the pot. A UN peace force to separate violent parties in Israel - with heavy weapons. Of course this force would have to enter like in the Balkans - the meanest dog in the neighborhood - because Israeli army extremists would seek the slightest reason for provokation knowing full well the lessons of Somolia and European fears of military solutions - ie Balkans before Clinton said 'enough' and took over.

Arafat has demonstrated that Palestinian violence can be stopped IF his government has governmental powers. But if Israeli tanks won't even let Arafat go to church in Bethlehem, then the PA has no governmental powers - as Prime Minister Dichead so shrewedly planned.

Since these are not viable alternatives, then the only alternative is to pray for more and worse violence. That is the only long term solution for peace. Deaths are not gruesome enough and in large enough numbers to make extremists look bad. Eventually the violence will become so bad that Israel will be forced to remove all occupation settlements in the West Bank and Gaza as up front requirements for settlements under the Oslo Accords.

Anyone who says Israel only attacks legititmate targets promotes terrorism. Such people forget the massacre of 5,000 Palestinian women and children. That legitimate target nonsense is the most irresponsible thing one can say since Prime Minister Dichead took power. That statement means one supports the Dichead but is not willing to say so.

The solution to a peace settlement up front requires the elimination of the racist Likud party. That means people must call Sharon what he really is - a mass murder many times over and the primary reason for all current Middle East violence.

You must give Sharon credit. He got the political situation he wanted. It is a masterful plan to get the Oslo Accords destroyed.

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Old 03-14-2002, 01:21 PM   #2
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Here tw is mostly right, with the exception of "Israel army, under command of extremists, is a primary reason for all the violence." As I started previously, one can't just say the other is a primary cause. They both keep dumping fuel on the flames. <b>Both</b> are primary causes.

Everything else is spot-on though. Sharon doesn't want peace. This should be obvious to anyone that closely observes the conflict. The attacks on Palestinian police headquarters and the like are unwarranted.

The problem, like I've said before, is that extremist Palestinians continually give Israel the justification to strike. Not necessarily a police headquarters, but to <b>do something</b>. If there were no more suicide bombings/shootings, Israel would be hard pressed to blow up Arafat's Gaza compound.
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Old 03-14-2002, 01:23 PM   #3
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tw - just curious - why "dichead" and not "dickhead"?
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Old 03-14-2002, 02:34 PM   #4
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So I guess attacks on the ABC News crews was a legitimate target. ...snip
Michael Eisner sure seems to think so:p He's been targeting the News Division for years now

(Disclaimer - I do a lot of support for ABC News)
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Old 03-14-2002, 10:13 PM   #5
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tw - just curious - why "dichead" and not "dickhead"?
Just trying to keep my posts from becoming too long.

No. Better say - trying to keep my posts short.

Or maybe.....

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Old 03-15-2002, 01:06 AM   #6
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The eagle did land, correct?
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Old 03-16-2002, 08:20 PM   #7
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This image
<img src="http://www.msnbc.com/c/0/68/286/10x7/twip_2002_0314_05.jpg">

fits in with the first one in this post.

"Vigilante justice
Masked Palestinians pull the body of Mahmoud Sabatin up the stairs of a building in the Bethlehem on March 14, intending to hang it from the roof. Sabatin, who was sentenced for collaborating with Israel by the Palestinian Authority, was shot dead by armed Palestinians not affiliated with Palestinian security."

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Old 03-21-2002, 03:51 AM   #8
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Aye, Sharon wants peace as demonstrated by his soldier's actions! Indeed

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Old 12-24-2007, 08:06 PM   #9
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bump

interesting read from the beginning.
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