There are no illegal immigrants in America - Page 29

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

I don't think a dead border patrol agent is going to be able to arrest me.

Also, I pay plenty of taxes. I'd even pay income taxes if you or anyone can show me the law that compels me to do so. Joe Bannister, John Turner, and Sherry Jackson are all former IRS agents who quit their jobs when they couldn't find that law. When they asked the IRS to show them the law that compels us to pay income taxes so they would know they were doing the right thing, they were told they could resign and were not shown any law.

The government is my servant, and I am its master. If my servant doesn't abide by my rules (The U.S. Constitution) I will stop feeding the servant until he gets his act straight.

So now you are threatening to kill a border patrol agent who tries to arrest you....

And you admit to not paying taxes...

You have issues.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 12:13 PM

Everything in the passage supports it. It talks about the migration of slaves and the importation of slaves, and the fact that the federal government can't abolish slavery before 1808 but may charge a tax or duty for them.

Happy Monkey · 01-09-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Everything in the passage supports it. It talks about the migration of slaves and the importation of slaves, and the fact that the federal government can't abolish slavery before 1808 but may charge a tax or duty for them.

No, it doesn't mention slaves. Slavery can be inferred, but only in relation to the importation and duties, not in relation to migration. "Migration" as the forcible movement of slaves between states is a construct you brought in, not one that is in the passage, especially to the exclusion of all other types of migration.

lookout123 · 01-09-2008, 02:00 PM

shhh! if you make the walls of his little world crumble he might be forced to live in ours.

regular.joe · 01-09-2008, 01:04 PM

Crap, we'd have to pay for his lawyer.....

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe

Crap, we'd have to pay for his lawyer.....

Ugggggggggg... No we wouldn't, he told me earlier in this thread as he was in the Military for four years, got out and now makes more money than most general officers. So I say since he will be involved in smuggling more illegal aliens into the country we just get the feds to go seize all his assets, money, house, cars, whatever. Then we could use it to pay his public defender.

Aliantha · 01-09-2008, 02:32 PM

This last page just made me laugh.

I'm right and you're wrong, so ner ner ne ner ner! lol

Unbelievable.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 02:54 PM

Migration is not IMmigration. Slaves are migrated. Free people are immigrated.

Happy Monkey · 01-09-2008, 02:58 PM

Migration is not immigration, but immigration is migration. Slaves are migrated, free people migrate. The passage gives no preference to either construction.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Migration is not immigration, but immigration is migration. Slaves are migrated, free people migrate. The passage gives no preference to either construction.

Slaves migrate...free people immigrate.

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1 refers ONLY to slaves. It discusses the migration or importation of slaves and the fact that the federal government may not prohibit slavery from the states that want to allow slaves to be imported or migrated into those states.

It can not be construed to have any relation or connection to immigration or movement of free people by any stretch of the rational mind.

Happy Monkey · 01-09-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Slaves migrate...free people immigrate.

And free people, when immigrating (or emmigrating, or just moving around within a country), migrate.

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Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1 refers ONLY to slaves. It discusses the migration or importation of slaves and the fact that the federal government may not prohibit slavery from the states that want to allow slaves to be imported or migrated into those states.

You have yet to do more than assert that. The closest you have come to even attempting to support that assertion required you to make up a rule that free people don't migrate. I defy you to find a definition of "migrate" that has that restriction.

monster · 01-09-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Slaves migrate...free people immigrate.

What part of the definition of migration excludes free people?

For that matter what part of the definition of immigration excludes enforced immigration?

Which dicktionary do you use? I'd be interested to seek that one out for my collection.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 03:04 PM

Illegals aliens just crawl, swim, walk, or enter this country illegally through some other means. They are birds who never fly back to the south, but they send their money south of the border!

Radar · 01-09-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Illegals aliens just crawl, swim, walk, or enter this country illegally through some other means. They are birds who never fly back to the south, but they send their money south of the border!

No illegal immigrant has ever entered the United States. Those who cross the border by crawling, walking, swimming, running, or jumping are entering the country LEGALLY and are not violating any legitimate laws. They work hard, and contribute BILLIONS more to the U.S. economy than they use in services, and what they do with the rest of the money they earn is irrelevant.

If they are sending it back to Mexico, that is a good thing. It means Mexican people will be able to afford to buy more American made products.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

No illegal immigrant has ever entered the United States. Those who cross the border by crawling, walking, swimming, running, or jumping are entering the country LEGALLY and are not violating any legitimate laws. They work hard, and contribute BILLIONS more to the U.S. economy than they use in services, and what they do with the rest of the money they earn is irrelevant.

If they are sending it back to Mexico, that is a good thing. It means Mexican people will be able to afford to buy more American made products.

They are all criminals as our laws define it. If they are not why are they being arrested and deported? Check our your local prison, they are filled with these illegals.

01-09-2008, 12:13 PM	#2
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Everything in the passage supports it. It talks about the migration of slaves and the importation of slaves, and the fact that the federal government can't abolish slavery before 1808 but may charge a tax or duty for them. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

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regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	Crap, we'd have to pay for his lawyer..... __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

01-09-2008, 02:32 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	This last page just made me laugh. I'm right and you're wrong, so ner ner ne ner ner! lol Unbelievable. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-09-2008, 02:54 PM	#8
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Migration is not IMmigration. Slaves are migrated. Free people are immigrated. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

01-09-2008, 02:58 PM	#9
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Migration is not immigration, but immigration is migration. Slaves are migrated, free people migrate. The passage gives no preference to either construction. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

01-09-2008, 03:04 PM	#13
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Illegals aliens just crawl, swim, walk, or enter this country illegally through some other means. They are birds who never fly back to the south, but they send their money south of the border! __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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