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Old 08-03-2012, 03:02 PM   #1
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And how do we keep the killers from getting guns?

We'll outlaw guns.

Yeah, that's gotta work.
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:08 PM   #2
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And how do we keep the killers from getting guns?

We'll outlaw guns.

Yeah, that's gotta work.
Since you're changing the argument, I take it you're conceding Zen's point?
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:57 PM   #3
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"I based it on 10 shootings I found listed on some timeline somewhere. I honestly don’t even remember where. I presented the case studies in a blog post on the Silver Circle blog and I did the math myself."

Strong research there, I believe him.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:00 PM   #4
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Read further, Joe, when challenged, he did it over again and did it ... a little better.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:33 PM   #5
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Ok, I'll give it another try. Honestly I stopped at the point I posted.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:25 AM   #6
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Well, if you like, but I gave up pretty soon too.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:32 PM   #7
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CDC: Pretty Much Everyone Is Fat

Amazing the trend from 1985 to now.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:45 PM   #8
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Check out Jamie Oliver's TED Talk. I'm going to try to show it during our training week. He claims 10+% of our health care costs are linked to obesity.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:36 PM   #9
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:41 PM   #10
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:22 PM   #11
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This little article interested me because we're probably going to get a new car in the next year.
That will set off our family tradition of hand-me-down cars to various family members.
I thought the cost calculator which is also linked below was interesting and seemed useful...

LA Times
Dan Turner
10/5/12

Does $5 gas = buy a hybrid or electric car? A cost/benefit analysis
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The U.S. Department of Energy's Alternative Fuels Data Center
has an interesting tool on its website for comparing the costs of fuel and
ownership of nearly every motor vehicle sold in the U.S.
I compared my neighbor's Leaf to seven other popular 2012 gas-powered models,
including the hybrid Toyota Prius, given current local electricity prices and
figuring the average current price of gas at $4.75 a gallon.
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VEHICLE COST CALCULATOR

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This tool uses basic information about your driving habits to calculate total cost of ownership
and emissions for makes and models of most vehicles, including alternative fuel
and advanced technology vehicles.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:42 PM   #12
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This little article interested me because we're probably going to get a new car in the next year.
That will set off our family tradition of hand-me-down cars to various family members.
--snip

hand me downs like this?

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In 2009, Lewis and Rotjan surveyed the entire hermit crab population on Carrie Bow Cay. Many crabs were living in shells that were a tight fit or had one too many holes. As they grow, hermit crabs must move into larger shells, so they are always on the lookout for a more spacious dwelling. And an undamaged shell is preferable to a broken one, even if the shells are the same size. Knowing this, the researchers decided to dramatically change the available hermit crab real estate on Carrie Bow Cay. They placed 20 beautifully intact shells that were a little too big for most hermit crabs at various spots around the island and watched what happened.

When a lone crab encountered one of the beautiful new shells, it immediately inspected the shelter with its legs and antennae and scooted out of its current home to try on the new shelter for size. If the new shell was a good fit, the crab claimed it. Classic hermit crab behavior. But if the new shell was too big, the crab did not scuttle away disappointed—instead, it stood by its discovery for anywhere between 15 minutes and 8 hours, waiting. This was unusual. Eventually other crabs showed up, each one trying on the shell. If the shell was also too big for the newcomers, they hung around too, sometimes forming groups as large as 20. The crabs did not gather in a random arrangement, however. Rather, they clamped onto one another in a conga line stretching from the largest to smallest animal—a behavior the biologists dubbed "piggybacking."

Only one thing could break up the chain of crabs: a Goldilocks hermit crab for whom the shell introduced by Lewis and Rotjan was just right. As soon as such a crab claimed its new home, all the crabs in queue swiftly exchanged shells in sequence. The largest crab at the front of the line seized the Goldilocks crab's abandoned shell. The second largest crab stole into the first's old shell. And so on.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:20 PM   #13
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V, that's really interesting... and it is like our family

One of my G-sons is driving a Subaru (>120k miles) that started with my wife, and over to our daughter.
Another G-son and a G-daughter are driving cars that started family life with their mom and her S.O.

But it wasn't a matter of size, but of opportunity and need.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:50 PM   #14
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:58 PM   #15
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I showed it to my kids yesterday, and they both started singing the song and doing kung foo. Good times.
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