Self Policing Militia Summons

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by SamIam

Merc and Classic and Redux have all been very nice to me in PM's and other ways. Yet, they seem to have some male testosterone thing going when it comes down to one another. People are many faceted. I don't think we can make sweeping generalizations about what a person is like in real life based on a message board.

PS Bruce is a sweetie pie no matter what.

Redux has been very kind to me in PMs, as well. I can only judge people by how they treat me, and I will refrain from my other opinions.

I am also very forgiving (my ex is my best friend, ffs.) It's the repeated behavior that shuts me down. "Fool me once, shame on you...fool me 34 times, shame on me." Even I have a point where I am just done.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Republicans support banks, not taxpayers [youtube video]

Reader thinks, "This doesn't surprise me, I'll be the video demonstrates something to this effect."

Originally Posted by lookout123

and George Bush hates black people. I think you've got all the bases covered now Kanye.

Reader thinks, "Ha, that's funny. I suppose it is possible that the original poster over-simplified the situation, but still this doesn't invalidate the original poster's point. Mainly, I like this post because it is funny."

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

That's some respectful discussion.

Reader thinks, "Well, hell. Now this thread is ruined. I don't even care what the original point was. NOW all I see is somebody acting like a crybaby bitch with no sense of humor."

[Shawnee123]

Bullshit, Flint. That is exactly the sort of snark that others are held accountable for. It didn't seem funny to Spexx because of the history of snark crap regarding such issues.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Even I have a point where I am just done.

I get this. There are posters here that I am done with, because there's just no good to come from me interacting with them. I'm comfortable with that solution, and yet, I'd rather not keep adding more posters to the ignore roster.
I don't know what the solution is though.

[jinx]

Held accountable in what way Shaw?

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by monster

I dunno, but right now i'm really hoping no-one invokes Rule 34.

Aww, go ahead!

The fun thing about Rule*34 is that most of those depicted seem to be having a good time, even in some of the really infantile "art" where it manages to convey any emotion at all. There are a triple scad of photo-pornsites that don't have that vibe. Mike18 is almost the only exception to that that I've ever seen -- Mike the gay Russian kid always seems to be having a good time in the pics where there is someone else to have a good time with. Too, there's the Australian paysite Abbywinters.com.

Maybe... Rule Six.

[Flint]

Bullshit, Flint.

What do you mean Bullshit? I'm telling you what my reaction was when I read those posts.

That is exactly the sort of snark that others are held accountable for.

When you say "others are held accountable" it shows where your thinking goes off track on this issue. It doesn't matter "who" you are. There are no special "cool kid" clubs. Either you are funny or you are not. This is just like in real life: there are intangible things which make something socially awkward, and knowing what these things are allows you to navigate your way through a social interaction.

It didn't seem funny to Spexx because of the history of snark crap regarding such issues.

We can't go around worrying about what people's reactions will be. What I was pointing out was that someone consciously decided to move the thread from being funny and lighthearted into their personal "my crybaby feelings are hurt" soapbox, and THAT is a party foul.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

But I have *NEVER* posted anything to you as dismissive, abusive, insulting, nasty, and rude as you two just posted to me.

Though you have posted that way to others... and have been stared down by every reader of that thread for trying it, not just the three who lined up against you then.

Your... difficulties... with hoplophobia should be kept in mind, and the terrible consequences of empowering hoplophobia in the political sphere understood. Whatever Radar's sins, hoplophobia was not one of them. I've never suffered it either, and Merc and Classic are reliably immune to it also, as is Griff, I think.

Somebody pass me the popcorn and the shaker cheese.

[glatt]

Merc can be a little rough on the boards, but he's always been kind and supportive in PMs. He helped me move once, and he donated that kidney that one time. He's a good guy when you get to know him.

Classic sometime has a hard time not flinging the poo, but he's also been great with the PMs, and that time we went on vacation together is something I'll always cherish. Remember the para-sailing?

UG is a nut, the old lug. You can't take him seriously on the boards. He's really a good guy. He sharpens all my knives for me. You gotta love that.

Spexvett is on my team, so I love him, plus he set my parents up with all those free bifocals. He's a great guy. I'm not getting any younger, and he's assured me that he'll take care of my reading glasses when I need them.

But Redux. Man, Redux! He's on my team, but he sends me multiple abusive PMs every day and I caught him trying to sell my daughter to the gypsies.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Flint

What do you mean Bullshit? I'm telling you what my reaction was when I read those posts.

When you say "others are held accountable" it shows where your thinking goes off track on this issue. It doesn't matter "who" you are. There are no special "cool kid" clubs. Either you are funny or you are not. This is just like in real life: there are intangible things which make something socially awkward, and knowing what these things are allows you to navigate your way through a social interaction.

We can't go around worrying about what people's reactions will be. What I was pointing out was that someone consciously decided to move the thread from being funny and lighthearted into their personal "my crybaby feelings are hurt" soapbox, and THAT is a party foul.

I guess you read it as lighthearted and funny. I did not. Sure, have whatever reaction you want. I dont' think my sense of humor is that far removed from yours. Let me recap: Spexx makes a post about a political issue. lookout makes a 'joke' and calls him Kanye. And all spexx said was "well there's some respectful discussion." An observation, for which you felt it was ok to call him a crybaby.

Where is the name calling? I would say Kanye and crybaby fit that category.

The thing is, see, this thread is about the disrespect crap in the politics forum. There are those of us who have admitted to being a part of the problem, and are trying to do better. From the self-proclaimed not even close to being part of the problem, this comment was just business as usual.

Let's face it! We all be part of the problem! The problem is it's fucking POLITICS, people.

I wanted to post about the nightmare I'm going through with my teeth, but I didn't want to be called a martyr. Some words cut right through people, for whatever reason. Maybe you're immune? I wish I were. That sentence right there was martyrish. I'm just a big fucking crybaby martyr. I'm cool with that. Now, can we all admit our faults and try to do better? I doubt it. Too many are above fault.

And I don't give a hot hoot about the cool table or the club or lack of club. I've sat at the cool table my whole life, I don't need to make up any lost time.

[Flint]

So you read one thing as funny, one as snarky, and I read them in the opposite order. That is to be expected--this is all subjective.

However, you state "others are held accountable" as the problem which absolutely indicates to me that a "cool kids club" is what you believe to be the source of the problem. How can that not be what you meant? What DID you mean when you said that?

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by glatt

Merc can be a little rough on the boards, but he's always been kind and supportive in PMs. He helped me move once, and he donated that kidney that one time. He's a good guy when you get to know him.

Classic sometime has a hard time not flinging the poo, but he's also been great with the PMs, and that time we went on vacation together is something I'll always cherish. Remember the para-sailing?

UG is a nut, the old lug. You can't take him seriously on the boards. He's really a good guy. He sharpens all my knives for me. You gotta love that.

Spexvett is on my team, so I love him, plus he set my parents up with all those free bifocals. He's a great guy. I'm not getting any younger, and he's assured me that he'll take care of my reading glasses when I need them.

But Redux. Man, Redux! He's on my team, but he sends me multiple abusive PMs every day and I caught him trying to sell my daughter to the gypsies.

This is really funny, glatt.

I mean, guy helps you move, that can't be taken lightly.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Redux

Its all in the eyes of the beholder.

I think yours are childish (not cheeky) as a cover to being mean spirited.

Your personal attacks of some others here (not me) were hardly fun for those you target.

Tw cried victim, with no more success. This post of yours exhibits not merely a great, but also a Coulter-stereotypical, tendency to fuzz into relativism combined with crying victim that the Liberal or the Left have resorted to more and more, leaving the Conservative and the rest of the Right unimpressed. Is la Coulter right about the more leftward of the Democrats, then? Here was one more demonstration of the kind of thing she talks about -- she always did dislike wussification in politics.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Flint

So you read one thing as funny, one as snarky, and I read them in the opposite order. That is to be expected--this is all subjective.

However, you state "others are held accountable" as the problem which absolutely indicates that a "cool kids club" is what you believe the source of the problem is. How can that not be what you meant? What DID you mean when you said that?

I don't think it's fair to say to anyone who objects to inconsistency that the perception is (and what it implies) that that one is not part of the club and is therefore jealous or touchy on the subject.

The comment seemed to me (and no it doesn't matter WHO you are) to be The Great Snark 2010, based on what other things have transpired. I was willing to let it go until you brought in crybaby. I suppose if one of those who don't much like me decides to stab me in the eye, I should not say something like "that wasn't very nice" because it might seem as though I'm pointing out some kind of "club." Again, I dont' give a flying rat's rump about any club. If the subject of a kinder gentler cellar has arisen, then inconsistencies will surface, and people should be free to point that out. Otherwise, the way is being paved for those clubs you keep speaking of, and the stage is set for no kind of discussion at all.

[Shawnee123]

@ jinx: sorry, just saw your post.

I think all of us should be free to call others out when they are not trying (and trying is good, ain't none of us perfect) to be part of the solution of more respectful discussion, without someone coming back and pointing at the "crybaby."