Obama--the grumblings - Page 27

sugarpop · 03-05-2009, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I guess it's true that things are very differen't in Aus than in the US. for one thing, our minimum wages are a lot higher here, and from what I can tell, are regulated by governments and unions far more stringently. Some US citizens have accused me of living in a nanny state because of these sorts of (what I see as) benefits.

It's all a matter of perspective. Probably hard to compare Australia and the US in any case.

Truce?

Oh sweetie, I wasn't really arguing with you. I just come across as bitchy sometimes when I don't mean it that way. Sorry! (of course, there ARE times when I actually mean to be bitchy...

) I'm just very passionate about a lot of things. I see this as a real injustice in my country. It pisses me off to no end that Congress will vote to give themselves raises every year, but they won't vote to raise the wages of the underclass who voted them into office. Buncha wankers.

sugarpop · 03-05-2009, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Class warfare, your answers to the worlds ills will not be found here.

Class warfare has been going on for years in this country. It's just that the people at the top have been winning. Why is OK when they do it? I just want the rules to be more fair for everyone else.

Kaliayev · 03-05-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TGRR

Yay! We're North Korea!

Except Kim Jong-Il's got better hair.

Kaliayev · 03-05-2009, 09:14 AM

Class warfare, that's when you bomb a school, right?

Or is it that other one, when you redistribute just enough wealth to maintain social stability and prevent re-runs of the French Revolution?

lookout123 · 03-05-2009, 10:03 AM

I think it is where the politicians don't have a damn clue how to actually improve anything except their own finances so they spend all their time trying to convince blue collar workers that the rich are only rich because they've screwed them over. At the same time they tell the rich they're going to take all their money and give it to the poor, causing them to hire even better lawyers to stir up even more resentment. All the while some people stand around asking what is so wrong about taking a bit to help the poor.

sugarpop · 03-05-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I think most people have be praying that the solution was to provide better education to the poor kids. So far we can't even do that effectively. It would be a hard thing to measure. We shouldn's stop trying.

Public education used to be pretty good here. Now, even some of the private schools suck. It's appalling to me how ignorant and uninformed some of the younger people are in this country. We don't even make the top 25 list anymore. It's really sad.

TGRR · 03-05-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

I think it is where the politicians don't have a damn clue how to actually improve anything except their own finances so they spend all their time trying to convince blue collar workers that the rich are only rich because they've screwed them over.

Yes, because Ken Lay and Bernie Madoff are misunderstood heroes.

lookout123 · 03-06-2009, 03:35 PM

yeah, those two are the norm for wealthy. I suppose we should find some welfare queen as counterbalance?

DanaC · 03-06-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zhuge Liang

Class warfare, that's when you bomb a school, right?

Or is it that other one, when you redistribute just enough wealth to maintain social stability and prevent re-runs of the French Revolution?

That made me chuckle. Quite a lot.

Trilby · 03-06-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zhuge Liang

... just enough wealth to maintain social stability and prevent re-runs of the French Revolution?

I've been advocating for a French Revolution in this country for a long time.

Though the French did go a bit bananas with it (esp. at the end) it was, at first, a sound idea. AND it got results. I think that, as Americans, we can embrace and improve upon the spirit of the French Revolution and make it our own.

TheMercenary · 03-06-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy

At least we know he don't rub shit in his hair.

Good point.

Beestie · 03-06-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

I think it is where the politicians don't have a damn clue how to actually improve anything except their own finances so they spend all their time trying to convince blue collar workers that the rich are only rich because they've screwed them over.

I don't think you can say it any better than that.

I would add that the politicians are very adept at disguising the extent of their own wealth so as to feign a distinction between themselves and those they castigate in order to win over the blue collar support. In other words, their first act of hypocrisy is comitted before they are even elected. Given that, its hard to imagine that they suddenly cease being hypocrits following their victory.

TGRR · 03-07-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

yeah, those two are the norm for wealthy.

L. Dennis Kozlowski
Mark Swartz
Bernard Ebbers
Rebecca Mark-Jusbasche
Joseph Berardino
Barry Minkow
David Walsh
Calisto Tanzi
Conrad Black
William McGuire

Shall I go on? I can do this all day.

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Originally Posted by lookout123

I suppose we should find some welfare queen as counterbalance?

Good luck with that. After Reagan coined the term, claiming they were all driving Cadillacs to pick up their food stamps, he was unable to locate a single one, and basically admitted he made his little anecdote up. Or do you have a new definition for the term?

sugarpop · 03-07-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

I've been advocating for a French Revolution in this country for a long time.

Though the French did go a bit bananas with it (esp. at the end) it was, at first, a sound idea. AND it got results. I think that, as Americans, we can embrace and improve upon the spirit of the French Revolution and make it our own.

Off with their heads!

I've been wanting a revolution since the early 90s. After Reagan and Bush I became quite disillusioned with politicians and the policies they put forth. I voted for Clinton the 1st time, but not the 2nd, because I found I didn't like him as much as I thought I would. He turned out to be too moderate. I thought he would be more progressive. I hope Obama doen't turn out like that.

I heard something recently, don't remember where, but someone said, in France, the government is afraid of the people, here, the people are afraid of the government. Which is better for the people?

sugarpop · 03-07-2009, 01:14 AM

*off topic* (Hey Brianna, you live in Ohio. Is it true that a woman was recently given a ticket for reckless endangerment after she was pulled over for driving while breastfeeding AND talking on a cell phone? bitch should've been thrown in jail if it's true.)

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