Bush's Shrinking Safety Zone

[richlevy]

You guys really should have gone to the programs at the Constitution Center last year when I invited everyone.

Lincoln suspended Habeus Corpus during the Civil War.
Bush thinks that he is Lincoln.

Logically, it makes sense that he would suspend HC.

Did anyone see a TV movie called 'The Second Civil War'. Phil Hartman plays a president who can't make his own decisions. At the very end of the movie he channels Lincoln and starts the war.

Originally Posted by richlevy

Lincoln suspended Habeus Corpus during the Civil War.
Bush thinks that he is Lincoln.

Logically, it makes sense that he would suspend HC.

He who, white man? Bush or Lincoln? As I recall, Lincoln was not a power-mad psycho and the Civil War was one that was actually officially declared. Also, in the Civil War, there was little question of who the enemy was - it was either those damn Confederates or those damn Yankees, depending on your point of view.

Now we have a "war on terror" which seems to include the entire world.

Bush is just doing whatever he can to gather power in the executive office. Big diff.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by marichiko

As I recall, Lincoln was not a power-mad psycho...

I'm not old enough to remember, but if you read up on Lincoln ignoring what you were fed in elementary school, a good case could be made for nutjob. Remember that the whole mystical "Union" thing was pretty much made from whole cloth. It was a new idea that looks worse as time goes on.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

What are non-US citizen permanent residents?

There isn't another word for it, I don't think. Neil Gaiman is one, IIRC, though.

[xoxoxoBruce]

OK, Gaiman is married to an American and has two American children, so that would make sense.

[richlevy]

The White House, meanwhile, announced that George Bush had stopped using the slogan, "Stay the course", while the president himself hammered a new buzzword: "Change". "We're constantly changing. The enemy changes, and we change. The enemy adapts to our strategies and tactics, and we adapt to theirs. We're constantly changing to defeat this enemy," he said, after visiting a Florida company making a device for sniffing out roadside bombs.

We've officially got a new slogan. The war is as good as won.

He can't use "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" because

a)It's already taken.
b)He'e pretty much counting on fear to maintain his power base.

[tw]

For historical record - with 13 days to an election - George Jr has put forth new slogans. For example, he is now demanding benchmarks that Maliki (leader of Iraq) must meet. But he says he has no timetable. How is that so? Benchmarks without a timetable are useless.

Of course, even programmers learn about exceptions. What happens when the benchmark is not achieved? A programming writes error processing routines. But George Jr has no criteria for a missed benchmark. IOW that benchmark will never be missed because there is no timetable. Why no 'exception routines'? That answer is found in the last three paragraphs.

Clearly details in George Jr's logic are so flawed as to be a lie. But he is not preaching to those with enough intelligence to ask damning questions. He is not preaching to those who always demand what, why, and the numbers. He is preaching to those who know only because they were told by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.

"Stay the course", "Way forward", or "Mission Accomplished" are all soundbytes because a political agenda is more important that advancement of America. No wonder an insurgency was created when we disbanded the military and police. No wonder he still blames a mythical enemy called Al Qaeda. George Jr now admits Iraq has become worse (so that Urbane Guerrilla can say George Jr is not loopy). George Jr essentially admits "Mission Accomplished" will continue to get worse if we "Stay the course". What does George Jr (Cheney) propose?

We have three options. 1) 500,000 troops in-country immediately and for one year. 2) "Stay the course". Or 3) withdrawal. There are no other options. What George Jr has done: spin so that you don't notice. He is simply advocating "Stay the course" using different soundbytes.

That 500,000 troop option is quickly diminishing. Once that option is gone, there will be only one option. Withdrawal now or withdrawal after we have killed another 2,800 troops (as Urbane Guerrilla advocates). There is no other option ... if you reject sound byte logic and if you admit to reality. Deja vue Nam. So stunningly similar that we should be asking what they taught the 'under 40 year olds' in history class.

What are you being setup for? President made a solution impossible when he proclaimed that Americans don’t ‘cut and run’ (just like Americans don't do nation building). Henry Kissinger told this president, bluntly, that no exit strategy exist. Duh-h-h-h. George Jr has publicly stated that American troops will still be in Iraq when he leaves office (in2008) Why? George Jr's strategy – and those who rationalize using soundbyte logic would never realize this – his strategy is ‘blame and run’.

This from same person who obviously identified Iraq as not a threat by using logic. George Jr’s strategy is about his legacy - America be damned. Don't fool yourself. His contempt (like Urbane Guerrilla's) for the troops is that extreme.

George Jr needs a ‘blame and run’ option – which is ‘cut and run’ only after another thousand American soldiers have died. Deja vue Nixon and Vietnam. This posted for historical record because our future in Iraq is that bleak and because so many (ie Brianna and headsplice) do not yet understand.

[Hippikos]

500,000 troops is impossible without a draft. And we all know a draft in the US is political suicide...

Originally Posted by Hippikos

500,000 troops is impossible without a draft. And we all know a draft in the US is political suicide...

Yeppers. So we really only have two choices: "Stay the course" or leave. We have backed ourselves into a demoralizing war of attrition that could last for years.

I'd give anything for a return of the draft. The pol's wouldn't be able to get us out of Iraq quickly enough.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by marichiko

I'd give anything for a return of the draft.

Easy for you to say. You wouldn't be drafted.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

What are non-US citizen permanent residents?

U.S. PERMANENT RESIDENTS AND OTHER ELIGIBLE
NONCITIZENS
A lawful permanent resident (LPR) is a noncitizen who is legally
permitted to live and work in the United States permanently. Other
eligible noncitizens:
• Refugees are given indefinite employment authorization. Their
status continues unless revoked by DHS or until lawful
permanent resident status is granted, which refugees may apply
for after one year.
• Persons granted asylum in the United States are also authorized
for indefinite employment, and they can apply for permanent
residence after one year. Asylee status continues unless revoked
by DHS or until permanent resident status is granted.
• Conditional entrants are refugees who entered the United States
under the seventh preference category of P.L. 89-236 or whose
status was adjusted to lawful permanent resident alien under
that category. Note that the DHS stopped using this category on
March 31, 1980.
• Persons paroled into the U.S. for at least one year must provide
evidence (such as having filed a valid permanent resident
application) from the DHS that they are in the U.S. for other
than a temporary purpose and intend to become a citizen or
permanent resident.
• Cuban-Haitian entrants.
Some non-eligible statuses are:
• Family unity status. Such individuals have been granted relief
from deportation under the Family Unity Program. Previously
they were eligible for FSA funds.
• Temporary residents are allowed to live and work in the U.S.
under the Legalization or Special Agricultural Worker program.
Previously they were eligible for FSA funds.
• Persons with non-immigrant visas, who include those with work
visas, students, visitors, and foreign government officials.

From the Dept of Education Student Eligibility Guide

Does this answer the question or am I totally off base?

Originally Posted by glatt

Easy for you to say. You wouldn't be drafted.

There, there. I'll send you and your outfit a Care Package when you go.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Does this answer the question or am I totally off base?

Yes, thank you.

[tw]

From the NY Times of 3 Nov 2006:

Congress Tells Auditor in Iraq to Close Office
Investigations led by a Republican lawyer named Stuart W. Bowen Jr. in Iraq have sent American occupation officials to jail on bribery and conspiracy charges, exposed disastrously poor construction work by well-connected companies like Halliburton and Parsons, and discovered that the military did not properly track hundreds of thousands of weapons it shipped to Iraqi security forces.

And tucked away in a huge military authorization bill that President Bush signed two weeks ago is what some of Mr. Bowen’s supporters believe is his reward for repeatedly embarrassing the administration: a pink slip.

The order comes in the form of an obscure provision that terminates his federal oversight agency, the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, on Oct. 1, 2007. The clause was inserted by the Republican side of the House Armed Services Committee over the objections of Democratic counterparts during a closed-door conference,

When god says to steal from America, then clearly god does not want lawyers being more honest than god's chosen political party. Apparently god put that provision is the committee report. It just doesn't look good for god or for Republican extremists. God even wanted you to not read this post - or was that just another presidential lie.

Clearly god wanted this. Therefore it should not affect how you vote next week.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by tw

Therefore it should not affect how you vote next week.

That is ugly. Unfortunately, Dude, the fix is in, just like last time.