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I know that. So you feel 14 days income is proper for driving at 47 mph in a 31 mph zone? Sounds pretty severe to me. I believe that's gross, not net, income.
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What was the point of quoting me off-topic from the other thread Ibram?
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I had no idea they did this sort of thing, but i think it's a great idea personally. $150 to someone who only earns $450 per week is a lot more than $150 to someone who earns $4500 per week.
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It's still disproportionate punishment though, care to try that logic in areas of justice other then traffic fines?
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I think some speeding fines are too high, however, if someone cannot afford a fine, no matter what the crime the fine is for should the court just say "oh, they can't afford it... well, ok, let them off then". No.
The old saying still applies. "Can't do the time/fine, don't do the crime". I really dislike the attitude that people have that speeding is not really a crime. |
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You can't use this technique on other areas of punishment, it can only be used on monetary punishments.
And it isn't disproportionate, it just isn't a set rate. It does make things more complicated but if you do want to break down a classist system, this is one way of doing it and that is obviously one of their priorities. I really don't see how this is such a bad idea. Besides the whole rewards of being rich part, it gives people that break the law that happen to be rich something bigger than a slap on the wrist. If you make a million dollars a year, it is much easier just to take fines than it is to actually follow the law. |
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Why is it disproportionate?
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You think people should be punished just for being rich alone? It seems like you think it is self-explanatory, it is not. |
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Surely you can figure it out rkz. If you're wealthy, you can generally buy most material objects and items without having to worry about the bills. That is one reward of being rich that I can think of.
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Right, so does that mean he wants to set up a whole different set of punishments for people with money?
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No, just fine them proportionately to their income. The same as a sliding tax scale which if my memory serves me correctly, you're opposed to also.
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