Vaccination & epidemic

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by jinx

Huh, yeah, it's true. I didn't just pull something out of my ass or post my argumentative yet uninformed opinion as fact. Incidentally, why did you?

Somebody's got to play the Devil's advocate, or you guys wouldn't post all this good shit.

[Undertoad]

It's hard to do it without getting personal though, huh? I went through my shit carefully before posting and took out anything bitter or related to our lives etc.

[DanaC]

Actually that's a damn good point bruce.

(soz about the patronising jibe toad :P)

[jinx]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Somebody's got to play the Devil's advocate, or you guys wouldn't post all this good shit.

You're absolutely right B, it's a good thing. But if you're gonna bring it, bring it for real - none of that sugarpop shit.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by jinx

if you're gonna bring it, bring it for real - none of that sugarpop shit.

:p

[Undertoad]

none of that sugarpop shit

As the most informed Cellar poster on this topic, Jinx, you should take a more active role in the discussion.

[jinx]

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings again, Tony.

[Undertoad]

I'm sorry for sucking enough to allow it! Moving on...

[jinx]

Postlicensure Safety Surveillance for Quadrivalent Human Papillomavirus Recombinant Vaccine

The Risks and Benefits of HPV Vaccination

Information Pertaining to Labeling Revision for Gardasil

Gardasil package insert

[TheMercenary]

Information Pertaining to Labeling Revision for Gardasil

Thanks for that. I am getting ready to give my son's GF her second shot.

[jinx]

Glad to help.

[morethanpretty]

shit i'm due for my 3rd in november

[TheMercenary]

We have gone ahead with it. One of my girls got it, one declined. I personally encourage it. But this is purely a personal decision for each person.

[jinx]

Agreed.
I think it's important to note though, that as well as adverse health events associated with the vaccine, it also has limitations which aren't mentioned in the advertisements. There are 15+ strains of hpv that are considered oncogentic - Gardasil contains recombinant examples of 2 of them (the ones that may cause 50% or more cervical cancers).

Regular pap smears, hpv testing, and especially condoms are still imperative - vaccinated or not.

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Marketing HPV Vaccine

The new vaccine against 4 types of human papillomavirus (HPV), Gardasil, like other immunizations appears to be a cost-effective intervention with the potential to enhance both adolescent health and the quality of their adult lives. However, the messages and the methods by which the vaccine was marketed present important challenges to physician practice and medical professionalism. By making the vaccine's target disease cervical cancer, the sexual transmission of HPV was minimized, the threat of cervical cancer to adolescents was maximized, and the subpopulations most at risk practically ignored. The vaccine manufacturer also provided educational grants to professional medical associations (PMAs) concerned with adolescent and women's health and oncology. The funding encouraged many PMAs to create educational programs and product-specific speakers' bureaus to promote vaccine use. However, much of the material did not address the full complexity of the issues surrounding the vaccine and did not provide balanced recommendations on risks and benefits. As important and appropriate as it is for PMAs to advocate for vaccination as a public good, their recommendations must be consistent with appropriate and cost-effective use.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by jinx

Agreed.
I think it's important to note though, that as well as adverse health events associated with the vaccine, it also has limitations which aren't mentioned in the advertisements. There are 15+ strains of hpv that are considered oncogentic - Gardasil contains recombinant examples of 2 of them (the ones that may cause 50% or more cervical cancers).

Regular pap smears, hpv testing, and especially condoms are still imperative - vaccinated or not.

No doubt. But from my readings it was with HPV types 16, 18, 6, 11 and HPV types 16 and 18 currently cause about 70% of cervical cancer cases. HPV types 6 and 11 cause about 90% of genital warts cases. To me that is a pretty big deal and leaves only a chance that you will get one of the remaining 30% that are not covered by the vaccine and only 10% of HPV that causes genital warts, which I see on people all the time. And they are quite disruptive, yet highly contagious. I guess if they ever get a vaccine for Genital Herpes I would encourage them to get that since that is an even more common type of infection.