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12-25-2011, 04:56 PM | #1 |
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I live in Virginia. I don't have any special insider information on this primary issue. The primaries I have voted in have always included the candidates I cared about.
One crazy thing though. When I vote in the special upcoming county board primary next month for the Democrats, I will have to sign an oath that I won't vote for any candidate in the general election other than the party nominee. It's completely unenforcable, but it irks me anyway. |
12-26-2011, 01:55 PM | #2 |
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Its more than unenforceable. It is unconstitutional. Is that a county voting requirement or a VA state wide one?
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12-26-2011, 06:26 PM | #3 |
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turns out I was wrong. It's not a "primary." It's a "caucus," where the party chooses its nominee. I don't know if you have to be a Democrat to vote in it. But they will check my name off a list.
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12-26-2011, 08:29 PM | #4 |
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12-26-2011, 04:43 PM | #6 |
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It turns out that, in previous elections, the VA Republican Party has not checked the validity of signatures. If a candidate turned in 10,000 signatures it was assumed they were all valid, registered voters, and not forgeries at all.
In other words, theoretically, a team with a list and a bunch of Bics could assemble the 10,000 signatures for Alan Keyes in one pizza night. If you check the information in ballot access petitions, you will generally be able to nullify a good fifth of them just for being incorrect. Ditto marks are not valid. Illegible signatures are not valid. If you go further, you can remove another set where people have written their city instead of their polling location, or where they've gotten some aspect of the thing wrong. Go further and you can eliminate people not on the registered voters list, and obvious forgeries and such. Eventually, if you have a lot of money and work hard at it, you can disallow half of the signatures for various reasons. The policy for this election was that if you turned in over 15,000 signatures, they would not check them. And that is what Mitt Romney did. Bonus irony: Rick Perry vetoed legislation to ease Texas's ballot access laws. |
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12-27-2011, 10:25 PM | #11 |
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Article 2 section 1.
"The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves." As in, the President and VP have to be residents of different states. Gingrich resides in Virginia. Oops. EDIT: sorry, my bad. The 12th amendment has precedence here. Which reads: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves..." so, same deal.
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12-27-2011, 10:46 PM | #14 |
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The process within the VA GOP seems to be fractured and fraught with infighting to at least some degree - I'm not alleging legal or moral wrongdoing, but there is at least a whiff of something fishy about the circumstances, beyond "well they should have had more signatures"
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12-28-2011, 09:05 AM | #15 |
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I just like that the GOP is doing to their fellows what the two major parties have consistently done to third party candidates over the years without a peep from the press. /schadenfreude
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