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[Sundae]

You know, the bombing of Boston has had me asking myself some searching questions.
About life, death, causes, death tolls, the importance of human life, where death matters and when it matters and politics and funding.

I think it helped me resolve some questions re the difference between American and UK politics and general attitudes of the population.
I'm painting with a broad brush and accept it may be wrong written small.
But I think we (the English - specifically the English) have an attitude toward terrorism, and our immediate neighbours, and our overseas counterparts, and our sense - or lack - of identity that is unique in the world.

I could not believe Clinton shook Gerry McGuiness's hand.
To me that would be like David Cameron shaking Tamerlan Tsarnaev's hand.
And he only killed three people.

I started listing IRA deaths but I've done it before and I'm tired of it, frankly.
But where were the main centres of fundraising for this kind of terrorism in Ireland? New York and Boston.

Mulling it over I think it's because as an island fortress we were always open to attack.
There were times of peace. Long lazy summers of it.
The majority of people were poor and hungry, and when the industrial revolution came and they moved off the land they were poor and hungry and sick. It wasn't all Downton Abbey.

Then came WWI.
Men who survived came home shellshocked, and even those without diagnosis had seen friends blown apart and rotting corpses used as part of the defenses.

"Between the wars" was a real and tangible time. People trying to cope, to fit back in, to forget.

But Chamberlain came back with a worthless piece of paper.
WWII

You saw what happened in Boston.
Imagine that to infinity.
Think about every single building in your city, town, village or hamlet smashed to bits. And any that weren't were shit in by foreign soldiers, because they had nowhere else to relieve themselves. Crops gone, woodland gone, homes gone, places of worship gone.

Didn't happen here, but bombed out streets, destroyed buildings, running for shelter, curfews and blackouts did. It haunted my grandparents' generation and filtered down to my parents (Dad was born in 1940 and bombed out of his house.) I heard Nanny and Grandad's stories and as I got older I heard Grandad relate the stories of their friends.

And then the IRA. All over the country (England - called the Mainland.)
Old men, boys, shoppers, trainee musicians who happened to think their best career choice was within the Army. Not a few people in a marathon. CHILDREN killed out shopping. Not once, but again and again and again.

And in NI the taxi drivers, builders, pizza delivery men. Because it was tit for tat. You kill a Catholic we kill a Protestant. Wrong religion - target. Same as Sunnis and Shi'ites.

So I do feel bad that people died and some lost their limbs in America.
Of course I do, that's what makes me human and stops me taking out my anger by killing.

I just think, I just hope, that people can focus on the cause rather than the result. Little helped in the Troubles, too much history and hatred ingrained.
Clinton did try in the end. Even though he had to talk to a murderer.

I'm glad America can and will move on.
I just hope those in command remember that being the biggest kid in the playground doesn't make you right. Hey, I'm English; of course I believe stiff upper lip is sometimes better than smackdown.

[DanaC]

Right from the start, the 'British' national identity was forged first and foremost in opposition to the French. It took form against a backdrop of regular invasion scares. The sense of ourselves as an island at risk of invasion is as fundamental as the American sense of themselves as successful rebels against an overweaning empire.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Right from the start, the 'British' national identity was forged first and foremost in opposition to the French.

That would explain the cooking...

[Lamplighter]

Sundae, I remember how saddened and frustrated I was
over the daily/weekly reports on our tv of the killings in Ireland.
I really could not see how the British government was ever going to be able to end it all.
Even when the Irish Catholic and Protestant women joined together
trying to end the violence, it kept going.
It was a terrible time there.

Now, it's tempting to think back about what might have happened after the First Gulf War,
when all the American airbases in the middle east were closed,
and what might have happened when the neighborhoods of Manhattan
filled with Americans helping to build a new mosque.
It has been a terrible time here.

[anonymous]

It was pretty devastating news. I'm afraid for the future but I must stay strong. I need to go to bed, I can barely keep my eyes open, but every time they close, they cry.

Thank you all for your thoughts. Goodnight.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by anonymous

It was pretty devastating news. I'm afraid for the future but I must stay strong. I need to go to bed, I can barely keep my eyes open, but every time they close, they cry.

Thank you all for your thoughts. Goodnight.

Anon, I don't know what your situation is, but it sounds like you are working up the resolve to face whatever it is. You know you can come here to talk to us.

[infinite monkey]

knowing part of what the future brings is how you start conquering the future. damn the future, full speed ahead.

[Sundae]

FTR.

I was on a rant when I posted about terrorism.
Anyone who has read my posts know how I can foam at the mouth about the terrorism I encountered as a child.
But it was probably ill-placed here.

I admit I had been thinking about various stories and how they are reported worldwide - or not.

It was partly brought to mind because of a great book I've just read, The Boy Who Could See Demons. It's set in Belfast, and is grounded in fact, in that there are intergenerational effects affecting all children who had to live through and with the Troubles.

We expect it in places like Somalia, the Congo, Sudan. But children in what is effectively my country, although not actually child soldiers, lived with sectarianism, family and friends with extreme views, being harrassed on the way to school. It's bloody awful and sometimes it just spews out of me.

It was also prompted by someone who spoke at Meeting on Sunday, about cause célèbre. He noted that this country publicly mourned the death of three people in America, but ignored the death of 48 mental health patients in Russia, burned alive due to sedation or confinement. It affected him because of his own history as a psychiatric nurse.
Even he admitted we can't mourn everyone and everything.

So that was what was on my mind.
Sometimes I wonder at my own arrogance, that I can squander this privileged life, when so many others fight to just stay upright.

[infinite monkey]

Sundae,

I'm reading Life After Life...I really need to read it again I got a little confused.

BUT, reading about the bombing in London in WWII, the Blitz...I mean, every single day they expected bombing. I can't even imagine. For like 57 days.

Just a tangential thought, but it really made me think.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

BUT, reading about the bombing in London in WWII, the Blitz...I mean, every single day they expected bombing. I can't even imagine. For like 57 days.

Thanks, hon.

My Dad (73 today!) played on bombsites as a child.
Nan was given her first cigarette to calm her nerves during an air-raid. By a Doctor.
And Auntie Alice (or maybe she was telling it about one of her sisters?) risked a doodlebug in an air-raid to get home on time, Nanny Doyle's wrath being more immediate than bombing.

WWII is over.
The wounds of the Troubles are slowly healing.
My heart goes out to current generations of children living through violent conflict throughout this world. It is now as it's always been. But it's damaging. We're so much closer to primitive than we want to admit.

[Sundae]

This is post whoring of the whoriest kind.
If you can access it, it's me on the radio.

I listen to BBC Radio Five Live every day, but especially enjoy it on Saturday mornings.
Danny Baker and then Fighting Talk.
But although Danny Baker hosts an eclectic show, it's still nominally sports based, so I have never felt qualified to call in.
This morning however, one of the topics was "people you have argued with in dreams" and I had the perfect dream-related anecdote (you know me and my dreams!)

So I texted. And they called back. And I was on the show!
This is the link to the show, no idea if it can be accessed outside the UK - assuming you even want to. FFWD to 1:37 (one hour 37 minutes into the show.)

It's me!

[limey]

Originally Posted by anonymous

It was pretty devastating news. I'm afraid for the future but I must stay strong. I need to go to bed, I can barely keep my eyes open, but every time they close, they cry.

Thank you all for your thoughts. Goodnight.

Wishing you strength. Share with us what you can and know we're here for you.

Sent by thought transference

[morethanpretty]

So I thought I was supposed to start work today so I showed up...found out its really tomorrow. Oops.

[Lamplighter]

That's what employers want... enthusiasm !!!

[orthodoc]

Pondering what sort of job to go after for next year and where ... whatever happens, a move will be involved. Change is good, I think ... I could be in upstate New York or in West Virginia or in North Carolina. If I were to win the lottery and score an Ivy, hell yes. Texas or San Fran, possible but probably not. I'd prefer the east coast for family reasons. But whether to go for academic or non-academic ... still up in the air. The scales are leaning toward academic.