There are no illegal immigrants in America

[regular.joe]

Radar, I can't believe your preaching that again, after you've told us that the supreme court's opinion doesn't matter on an earlier post.

It only matters when you want it to?

It's late, I'm tired, and tired of this thread. Have fun ya'll.

[classicman]

All originally posted by Radar in this thread:
Nothing else matters in a Constitutional debate other than the words in the Constitution.

Citizens don't have Constitutional rights. Our rights don't come from the Constitution. All human beings have the same human rights.

Nothing else you post other than the Constitution itself matters.

Anything other than the U.S. Constitution is below the U.S. Constitution including the opinions of the Supreme Court or articles on their website. End of story.

I know more about the U.S. Constitution than anyone to serve on the Supreme Court in the last 100 years so shove your Constitutional experts up your ass. If they can't read the 10th amendment they are no expert.

How you might ask am I so sure about what the phrase "general welfare" meant when they wrote the Constitution? Because the 1828 copy of Webster's has the phrase defined so someone won't try to twist it.

The states were meant to have power over other areas IF the people grant the state such powers, but neither the states, nor the fed should ever have any authority to limit or restrict our rights any more than the boundary of another person's equal rights.

No, because that's what the Constitution says. That's all I happen to need, but for those who think that's not enough, it's also what the men said who wrote it; it's what every law school in America says; it's what the Supreme Court (and every court below the Supreme Court) says, it's what every single Constitutional scholar and expert says, etc...

Fighting over the word "of" didn't work so now you want to dispute a comma?

Actually that last little argument caused all the rest of this contrarian nonsense to go by the wayside with it.

[Aliantha]

[Aliantha]

Oh and welcome to the Cellar Learner. I see you've chosen to jump in at the deep end.

[Radar]

1. Slaves are persons.

2. Slaves are property.

3. Duty refers to a tax on an imported piece of property

4. Migration refers to movement and is not the same thing as immigration.


Clearly you don't comprehend the English language very well, so I'll try to break it down to your level.

Originally Posted by U.S. Constitution: Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1

The migration or importation of such persons as any of the states now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each person.

Here is the breakdown...

Congress is prohibited from stopping slavery before 1808 and must allow any of the slave states to bring in slaves and to move them around but Congress can charge a $10 duty or tax on each imported slave.

No other person has a duty charged for them other than those who are property. This means slave. No other person than a slave is migrated in America rather than having the freedom of movement. No other person is imported than a slave because a slave is property.

This clause refers only to slaves and can not be construed logically or honestly to refer to anyone other than a slave.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Radar

4. Migration refers to movement and is not the same thing as immigration.

Migration includes immigration and emmigration.

No other person has a duty charged for them other than those who are property.

And the duty is only on importation. Nothing in the clause applies a duty to migration.

No other person than a slave is migrated in America rather than having the freedom of movement.

It says nothing about forcible migration. It says migration of any persons the states wish to admit. Whether they are admitted at their own behest, or at the behest of an importer is unspecified, but the latter are subject to duties.

[TheMercenary]

Illegal Aliens are all criminals who should be rounded up and put in Gitmo or deported immediately.

[Radar]

Perhaps you're right, but we have no illegal aliens in America.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Radar

Perhaps you're right, but we have no illegal aliens in America.

BS, and you know it. Every one of those Mexicans who crawled and swam across the border are illegal and should be deported yesterday!

[Radar]

Nope. America has never had a single illegal alien because 100% of federal immigration laws are unconstitutional and you know it.

Every single person who crawled, swam, or jumped over the border without documentation combined didn't violate a single Constitutionally valid immigration law so they are here LEGALLY and they are no better or worse than the Irish, English, German, Dutch, Swedish, etc. immigrants who just showed up on boats before all of those unconstitutional immigration laws were written.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Radar

Nope. America has never had a single illegal alien because 100% of federal immigration laws are unconstitutional and you know it.

You are full of shit and you know it.

Nothing you can say would change my mind. You are not, as you want us to believe, a scholar of the Constitution.

You are nothing more than a Radar of MASH who has no clue.

Enjoy your fantasy.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You are full of shit and you know it.

Nothing you can say would change my mind. You are not, as you want us to believe, a scholar of the Constitution.

You are nothing more than a Radar of MASH who has no clue.

Enjoy your fantasy.

Deny it until you die and it won't change the indisputable fact that the U.S. Government has zero authority over immigration and that America has never had a single illegal alien.

Pull your head out of your ass and get some oxygen. You're starting to have hallucinations and delusions that the government has more power than it does.

You are nothing but a xenophobic or racist moron without a clue about the Constitution. I'm sure I won't change your mind, because you don't have a mind for me to change.

America has zero undocumented immigrants and you know it.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Radar

Deny it until you die and it won't change the indisputable fact that the U.S. Government has zero authority over immigration and that America has never had a single illegal alien.

Pull your head out of your ass and get some oxygen. You're starting to have hallucinations and delusions that the government has more power than it does.

You are nothing but a xenophobic or racist moron without a clue about the Constitution. I'm sure I won't change your mind, because you don't have a mind for me to change.

America has zero undocumented immigrants and you know it.

Cool!!!!!!!!!

Try it out in a court of law today and see how that works out for you. Let us ALL know how it turns out...

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

What "maroon"

[Aliantha]

Hey...I liked Radar from MASH. He was a nice boy.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Hey...I liked Radar from MASH. He was a nice boy.

So am I.