Hot takes on the Democratic frontrunners

[Happy Monkey]

I agree, except for the word "just", and the implication that this refutes or dilutes fascism.

[Undertoad]

How's this plan of name calling working out? It's kind of playing by his playground rules, isn't it? Yuh get swept up and pretty soon a thread about Democratic frontrunners is all about him. Because once again, it's all we can talk about.

Then at the end of three years of it, at the end of impeachment, near record and rising approval rating this morning.

James Carville said it last week: he basically said, we can win every argument on healthcare, drug prices, etc. why not have that argument instead of all this crap everyone's mired down in?

[Griff]

That is no doubt true. The problem is with letting his activities be normalized.

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

why not have that argument instead of all this crap everyone's mired down in?

cuz inevitably such a conversation has to address the big fat fuckin' commie squattin' happy at the top of heap.

Nominate Bernie: lose (cuz a-muricah don't want no commie).

Nominate anyone else: lose (cuz all the commie dupes, sympathizers, and card carriers will stay home in November).

Much easier to just, chimp-like, throw crap at my employee.

[Luce]

PJ Media.

Hang on while I go fetch something from democratic underground or something else as credible as PJ.

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Luce

PJ Media.

Hang on while I go fetch something from democratic underground or something else as credible as PJ.

Did you not read the disclaimer?

some spicy propaganda

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Follow the Libertarian persuasion and you can ignore any Democratic solon extant. They seem to be running the gamut between hallucinatory readings of current events and creative writing, House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff (D-Burbank CA) serving as an example of both. They are markedly out to lunch on economics and the current economy -- they are banking on your ignorance. Don't give them that win.

Trump didn't get my vote -- in 2016. By me, he's earned four more years; his bitter enemies are actuated not by law nor by ethics, nor by decency, nor by morals, definitely not by the Constitution: they are actuated solely by prejudice, and that taints. Out upon them all!

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Follow the Libertarian persuasion and you can ignore any Democratic solon extant.

So give up one set of irrational beliefs for a less rational set of beliefs?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

his bitter enemies are actuated not by law nor by ethics, nor by decency, nor by morals, definitely not by the Constitution: they are actuated solely by prejudice,

Prejudice towards ethics, decency, morals, and the Constitution.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Not remotely, HM. Observe their behavior. Ask yourself if "impeachment first, offense (if any) afterwards" is supportable or even endurable, let alone supportive of the Constitution. I say it is not, and I long ago took an oath to support it. Also that those who want to behave that way are antidemocratic fanatics of the first water.

Are you an antidemocrat, fanatical or not? Were you not *so* ready to substitute Party (deliberately capitalized; I consider them ignorant subversives) loyalty for something understandable as ethical thought, I'd be able to recognize you as intelligent and thoughtful.

Would that be nice, or not so nice?

Luce, care to explain in exhaustive detail -- or any detail -- just what's so irrational about free minds, free markets, and the natural, human-nature-friendly flow of capitalism? The people who congratulate themselves on disdaining capitalism are people of no effect and less wealth -- even less of adulthood. Does this amount to a fair if unvarnished description of you? If you *can* want to, prove otherwise. Don't offer excuse -- show me.

You will be much aided if you expose yourself to Dinesh D'Souza. I mean his writing, especially What's So Great About Capitalism. And I suppose secondarily his Stealing America, which is more about his own whitecollar brush with the law than anything of overarching social commentary. That can be found elsewhere.

You do, however, need a hunger for knowledge that's roughly equal to mine.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

You will be much aided if you expose yourself to Dinesh D'Souza.

*blink*

As for the rest of your post, how about "no"? I have already stated my case, and I'm terribly sorry to tell you that you aren't my supervisor.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Has it never occurred to you your stated case would not satisfy a tough-spined echidna//Who if you don't mind would prefer that you didna? What you are doing does not persuade anyone as to the worth of emulating it.

You have so far declared in cold print you have *no* argument for believing as you do. I always make my arguments clear, even to those incapable of perceiving. Those -- they have to bear my pity, sorry wretches that they are. A bad religious attachment -- so many cling to the lesser way with a religious devotion -- can really bugger up a mind. Maybe without that "up."

I read, and am made wise.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Has it never occurred to you your stated case would not satisfy a tough-spined echidna//Who if you don't mind would prefer that you didna? What you are doing does not persuade anyone as to the worth of emulating it.

You have so far declared in cold print you have *no* argument for believing as you do. I always make my arguments clear, even to those incapable of perceiving. Those -- they have to bear my pity, sorry wretches that they are. A bad religious attachment -- so many cling to the lesser way with a religious devotion -- can really bugger up a mind. Maybe without that "up."

I read, and am made wise.

No, what I said was that I don't follow your orders.

I also said that I stated my case.

Since you refuse to be honest, this conversation is over.

[henry quirk]

very libertarian of you

[Luce]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

very libertarian of you

One thing that has always puzzled me about libertarians is that they cannot accept that you can be a member of society and still maintain your individuality.

In short, I am going to do what's best for society as a whole. What UG wants in this thread is irrelevant to the general welfare of society, therefore I choose not to follow his orders.