"She", not "he", guys

[BrianR]

I am LIVING that!

So far, a happy story with a happy ending every now and then.

[Happy Monkey]

Is henry an Oklahoma judge?

Originally Posted by Okahoma judge

A so-called sex-change surgery can make one appear to be the opposite sex, but in fact they are nothing more than an imitation of the opposite sex,
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To grant a name change in this case would be to assist that which is fraudulent,
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It is notable that Genesis 1:27-28 states: ‘So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth
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The DNA code shows God meant for them to stay male and female.

[Sundae]

OMG. The magic book that claims all forms of life were created simultaneously in their present form is used in a court of law. I may have to faint.
Where's the separation of church and state when you need them?

Also what are hermaphrodites?
God's practice, or his upgrade?
If he couldn't control DNA he shouldn't have used it in the first place.

[Cyber Wolf]

Wait a minute... which image is he using? Males and females look quite different, which is the basic issue that a lot of people have. So... either God has got two (or more?) images or is a hermaphrodite. And if God is sexless, then neither males nor females are in God's image.

[BrianR]

Ibby, you have hit on one of my hot button topics with the TG community; the complete lack of agreement on definitions and terms. If we cannot even agree on who/what we are, how can we expect the rest of society to accept us?

I use and define the terms this way:

TS = transsexual = a person who desires and is actively engaged in chemical and/or surgical alteration of one's body to parallel one's mental status.

TG = transgender = a person who is not comfortable with one's gender but who's dysphoria is not strong enough to impair daily life.

CD = crossdresser = a person who wears clothing appropriate to the opposite sex but who does so out of preference and not as a sexual fetish. Such a person does not generally experience dysphoria.

TV = transvestite = a person who wears the clothing of the opposite sex for purposes of sexual fulfillment, but not outside of a sexual context. Such a person does not generally experience dysphoria.

Androgyne = a person who displays superficial secondary characteristics of both genders. May or may not experience dysphoria and rarely at an elevated level.

Drag King/Queen = a person who dresses in the clothing of the opposite sex (usually to extremes) for purposes of entertainment or performance. Usually but not always are gay/lesbian but experience no dysphoria and have no desire to alter their appearance other than superficially.

Hermaphrodite = a person (very rare) who displays primary physical characteristics of both sexes at the same time. Usually, these tend towards one or the other strongly. Most often, they are diagnosed at birth and surgically "corrected" immediately, but may be incorrectly gendered by the parents/doctors.

Asexual = a person who is gender neutral and prefers to be referred to as a "third sex", that is; neither male nor female. I am not sure about these people.

I will not bother to define sub-categories and fetishes as they get too numerous to deal with here.

Mind you, these are MY definitions and may or may not be accepted by anyone else.

I do not hold truck with those who are "trannier than thou" and seek to de-legitimize others based on where on the spectrum they are. I fully accept that some TSs do not seek surgery for whatever reasons. I also accept that some may be in more than one category or may change categories over time. Dysphoria is different for each individual.

I hold that transsexualism is a medical condition that is self-diagnosed and treatable with drug therapy and surgical correction. The degree of treatment is dependent on the individual. Once "cured" through a successful treatment regimen and psychological and social transition, one no longer suffers from the condition and should be legally and socially recognized as the target gender and not as a transsexual. The term 'transsexual' should be used as a noun and not as an adjective. In my opinion, of course.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by BrianR

TS = transsexual = a person who desires and is actively engaged in chemical and/or surgical alteration of one's body to parallel one's mental status.

TG = transgender = a person who is not comfortable with one's gender but who's dysphoria is not strong enough to impair daily life.

Well, I live full-time as an out woman. I will be starting HRT in the next month or so, if my blood work turns out fine. I think i'd very much be in the former category, rather than the latter, in your terms.

[BrianR]

Originally Posted by Ibby

Well, I live full-time as an out woman. I will be starting HRT in the next month or so, if my blood work turns out fine. I think i'd very much be in the former category, rather than the latter, in your terms.

Welcome! The water is warm! Very warm...





I think I missed the announcement also, Dana. Ibby, you are on report for not telling us everything!

Just wait until electrolysis!

[DanaC]

I think perhaps we haven't been privy to the whole of your journey Ibs. When you first 'came out' you were talking in terms of gender exploration and not really feeling that either 'he' or 'she' was entirely appropriate.

[Ibby]

I'm... on HRT as of today. Whoa.

[BigV]

Is it hot in here?

[BrianR]

Congratulations!

Remember the day well, so you can talk about it to others. The "The Day I Started HRT" story is almost mandatory for newbs.

[Ibby]

honestly there's not much story though! i was almost late for my appointment cause it was a morning appointment, and then i had class, and we got out early, but i forgot my wallet so I had to go back to the apartment and get it to go pick up the prescription after class. I also bought some pretzels while i was at riteaid. Now i'm eating cheese and pretzels and watching Arrested Development.

[Undertoad]

Now i'm eating cheese and pretzels and watching Arrested Development.

In a few weeks that will be Super Fudge Chunk and the Sex and the City 2 Blu-Ray.

[ZenGum]

Wait, you're starting with the HRT?



I thought you had a Subaru, but okay, have fun!

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

In a few weeks that will be Super Fudge Chunk and the Sex and the City 2 Blu-Ray.

Tcha.
Ibby will hang with ladies like Bri and me. Eat nachos and drink beer. And watch... Torchwood I guess. Dunno about Bri on that one. Dana and me maybe.