Mental Nuts-- Can You Crack 'em? - Page 23

infinite monkey · 01-03-2012, 10:33 AM

It's not a story.

It's simple geometry.

BigV · 01-03-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey

@ V: So your answer and my answer are the same. My answer is just easier to read.

Prolly. but who knows what evil lurks in the index of his little book.

I wasn't trying to outdo your answer, I just took a LONG time formatting my charty thingy and the posts landed accordingly.

infinite monkey · 01-03-2012, 10:35 AM

I knew dat. I had to double check mine to see that it matched yours. Wanted to make sure I'd said it right.

glatt · 01-03-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV

@glatt --
I skimmed your link, interesting.

And it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the hunter goes around the squirrel.

footfootfoot · 01-03-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

And it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the hunter goes around the squirrel.

You can put a pig in a dinner jacket but it's still a pig.

Infi gets #34 right, BigV gets #35 right.

Glatt and Classic are on probation.

glatt · 01-03-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

You can put a pig in a dinner jacket but it's still a pig.

You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but a bird in the hand is worth a silk purse.

classicman · 01-03-2012, 12:46 PM

On probation? For what? Being correct? Ya Cock!

jimhelm · 01-03-2012, 03:18 PM

he's a German Purse

Deutch Bag

classicman · 01-04-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Classic, in this case the the hub of the wheel is the tree and the squirrel is the opposite side of the rim.

No, not from my perspective. The axle is the tree, the squirrel is the hub and the hunter is the outside of the rim.

This whole thing is dependent upon the definition of "go around"
This is where the dispute comes in. Depending upon one's definition of that either answer is correct. I'm out.

ETA - again semantics, NOT geometry.

infinite monkey · 01-04-2012, 10:27 AM

No, again. It's GEOMETRY. NOT semantics.

You. Are. Wrong.

kthxbai :p

BigV · 01-04-2012, 10:45 AM

My new favorite obsession. It really is about geometry. When the puzzle says circle the tree, that's geometry. There's a plain unambiguous definition of a circle, likewise what is inside and what is outside the circle.

I'd love to understand the reasoning behind this different conclusion, really. I've heard lots of justifications, facing, semantics, parallel paths, ropes, turning, not turning, tree, etc etc. None of them stand up, or at least none have been convincing to me. I would like to be convinced, if it is really what you believe, that the squirrel has not been gone around. But nothing has done that yet.

Until then, the geometry of a circle, the semantic definition of a circle, remains the most convincing, truest answer.

infinite monkey · 01-04-2012, 10:46 AM

Parallel planes never intersect. Geometry.

What if you laid out the circumference of the path of the squirrel and the circumference of the path of the hunter into straight lines?

Parallel lines.

footfootfoot · 01-04-2012, 10:55 AM

You can lead a horse to water...

And now for some more algebra, which some people find easier to understand:

glatt · 01-04-2012, 10:58 AM

If you change the problem so the hunter doesn't go around the squirrel, then I would agree that the hunter doesn't go around the squirrel. Until then...

Lamplighter · 01-04-2012, 10:59 AM

OK, V...

The hunter goes around a circle.
The circle has a center.
The center is a point.
A point has zero dimensions.

Ibso Santorum, the hunter goes around nothing.

01-03-2012, 12:46 PM	#337
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01-03-2012, 03:18 PM	#338
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01-04-2012, 10:45 AM	#341
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	My new favorite obsession. It really is about geometry. When the puzzle says circle the tree, that's geometry. There's a plain unambiguous definition of a circle, likewise what is inside and what is outside the circle. I'd love to understand the reasoning behind this different conclusion, really. I've heard lots of justifications, facing, semantics, parallel paths, ropes, turning, not turning, tree, etc etc. None of them stand up, or at least none have been convincing to me. I would like to be convinced, if it is really what you believe, that the squirrel has not been gone around. But nothing has done that yet. Until then, the geometry of a circle, the semantic definition of a circle, remains the most convincing, truest answer. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

01-04-2012, 10:55 AM	#343
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	You can lead a horse to water... And now for some more algebra, which some people find easier to understand: Attached Images __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

01-03-2012, 10:33 AM	#331
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	It's not a story. It's simple geometry.

01-03-2012, 10:35 AM	#333
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	I knew dat. I had to double check mine to see that it matched yours. Wanted to make sure I'd said it right.

01-04-2012, 10:27 AM	#340
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	No, again. It's GEOMETRY. NOT semantics. You. Are. Wrong. kthxbai :p

01-04-2012, 10:46 AM	#342
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Parallel planes never intersect. Geometry. What if you laid out the circumference of the path of the squirrel and the circumference of the path of the hunter into straight lines? Parallel lines.

01-04-2012, 10:58 AM	#344
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	If you change the problem so the hunter doesn't go around the squirrel, then I would agree that the hunter doesn't go around the squirrel. Until then...

01-04-2012, 10:59 AM	#345
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	OK, V... The hunter goes around a circle. The circle has a center. The center is a point. A point has zero dimensions. Ibso Santorum, the hunter goes around nothing.

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