computer problem - Page 22

lumberjim · 03-14-2010, 08:13 PM

so....

the freaking thing is doing it again. i already have the backup, and it sees the c drive, so i'm running chkdsk c: /f again.

think i should replace the hard drive?

tw · 03-15-2010, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

so....
the freaking thing is doing it again.

As stated at the very beginning to avoid exponential aggravation: All manufacturers have these diagnostics. Your problem is exactly why better manufacturers provide these diagnostics. If not provided, then use another machine to burn a bootable CD (or USB stick) with the diagnostic from the disk drive manufacturer. Idea is to learn what is wrong long before trying to fix anything ... so that data is not lost and so that the problem is not made exponentially more complex.

Chkdsk is to fix something after damage results. Is not a diagnostic tool. Is not for finding defects before damage results. A diagnostic could have answered that long ago.

mbpark · 03-14-2010, 08:28 PM

LJ,

Yes. I think you should.

You can copy the existing HD, so you can keep the recovery partition, to another HD if you get a USB to SATA adapter and run RawCopy from the Ultimate Boot CD to transfer the data over. This will take an hour or two, but it'll work. I've used it with a Sony VAIO before.

Get the HD model and order something from the same vendor that's either the same size or a little bigger, and 7200 RPM if possible. Sony and other vendors like Lenovo are infamous for locking machines to a single HD vendor.

Undertoad · 03-15-2010, 09:50 AM

It occurs to me that both Seagate and Western Digital offer free diagnostics for download, that are better than manufacturer diagnostics.

Western Digital diagnostics told me that my main XP installation C: drive was dying. Last year.

I used it for another six months while I built the system up for Win 7. I still boot into XP from time to time. It still works.

zippyt · 03-15-2010, 04:27 PM

Jim , If You send the dead drive to me Ill put a .44 mag hole or a few thru it for ya , And take Pics , Maybe even Video for you

ZenGum · 03-16-2010, 08:03 AM

That's about the only post in this thread I understand.

jinx · 03-16-2010, 10:43 AM

I wonder what will be in working order first; my jeep or my vaio. Any bets?

lumberjim · 03-16-2010, 02:23 PM

I'll say the Vaio...

lumberjim · 03-17-2010, 08:48 PM

mitch,
if you don't mind, this is what came in the Vaio. Unavailable at newegg. This one is, though. I don't see a 7200 RPM Toshiba drive. is that 3263 the upgrade to the 3252?

and which usb to sata adapter should I get?

thanx

mbpark · 03-17-2010, 09:20 PM

Get the second drive, it's faster.

I have this USB to SATA adapter here. It's pretty fast:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-014-_-Product

lumberjim · 03-17-2010, 09:22 PM

cool. thanks!

lumberjim · 03-23-2010, 05:06 PM

Ok,

I got the new Drive, and the SATA/USB adapter. I have jinx's computer up and running with the old drive. I plugged the new drive into it with the adapter, and formatted it with one NTFS partition. Now how exactly do I copy the recovery partition onto the new drive?

mbpark · 03-23-2010, 05:20 PM

LJ,

Run the boot CD again, and make sure you can see both hard drives (old and new!) by running compmgmt.msc and going to Disk Management.

Make sure your old HD is Disk 0, and your USB drive is Disk 1. You can tell because your Disk 0 will have 2 partitions on it, and Disk 1 will have 1.

Run RawCopy (under Disk Tools) and select Physical Drive 0 as your source, and Physical Drive 1 as your destination.

Click Copy, and then go off and do something for a couple of hours. It will take that long!

When you're done, you'll have a copy of your source drive you can put in the laptop and use.

lumberjim · 03-23-2010, 05:36 PM

right arm.

lumberjim · 03-23-2010, 08:01 PM

first attempt failed.

It was going along with a % complete number for a while, then i checked it and it said 'attempting data recovery' for a long time, and then it said 'copy cancelled.' The f&*^%ing cat had jumped up onto the corner of the keyboard a couple times, so I assumed he had done something..... so I reset it, and cat proofed it....and it started with the % complete thing again....last time i checked it said 8.24% complete....and now...it says 'attempting data recovery' again. I'm concerned that it's cancelled again....

god hates me.

03-14-2010, 08:13 PM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	so.... the freaking thing is doing it again. i already have the backup, and it sees the c drive, so i'm running chkdsk c: /f again. think i should replace the hard drive? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-15-2010, 04:27 PM	#5
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Jim , If You send the dead drive to me Ill put a .44 mag hole or a few thru it for ya , And take Pics , Maybe even Video for you __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

03-16-2010, 08:03 AM	#6
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	That's about the only post in this thread I understand. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

03-16-2010, 10:43 AM	#7
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	I wonder what will be in working order first; my jeep or my vaio. Any bets? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

03-16-2010, 02:23 PM	#8
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I'll say the Vaio... __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-14-2010, 08:28 PM	#3
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	LJ, Yes. I think you should. You can copy the existing HD, so you can keep the recovery partition, to another HD if you get a USB to SATA adapter and run RawCopy from the Ultimate Boot CD to transfer the data over. This will take an hour or two, but it'll work. I've used it with a Sony VAIO before. Get the HD model and order something from the same vendor that's either the same size or a little bigger, and 7200 RPM if possible. Sony and other vendors like Lenovo are infamous for locking machines to a single HD vendor.

03-15-2010, 09:50 AM	#4
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	It occurs to me that both Seagate and Western Digital offer free diagnostics for download, that are better than manufacturer diagnostics. Western Digital diagnostics told me that my main XP installation C: drive was dying. Last year. I used it for another six months while I built the system up for Win 7. I still boot into XP from time to time. It still works.

03-17-2010, 08:48 PM	#9
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	mitch, if you don't mind, this is what came in the Vaio. Unavailable at newegg. This one is, though. I don't see a 7200 RPM Toshiba drive. is that 3263 the upgrade to the 3252? and which usb to sata adapter should I get? thanx __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-17-2010, 09:20 PM	#10
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	Get the second drive, it's faster. I have this USB to SATA adapter here. It's pretty fast: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-014-_-Product

03-17-2010, 09:22 PM	#11
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	cool. thanks! __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-23-2010, 05:06 PM	#12
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Ok, I got the new Drive, and the SATA/USB adapter. I have jinx's computer up and running with the old drive. I plugged the new drive into it with the adapter, and formatted it with one NTFS partition. Now how exactly do I copy the recovery partition onto the new drive? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-23-2010, 05:20 PM	#13
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	LJ, Run the boot CD again, and make sure you can see both hard drives (old and new!) by running compmgmt.msc and going to Disk Management. Make sure your old HD is Disk 0, and your USB drive is Disk 1. You can tell because your Disk 0 will have 2 partitions on it, and Disk 1 will have 1. Run RawCopy (under Disk Tools) and select Physical Drive 0 as your source, and Physical Drive 1 as your destination. Click Copy, and then go off and do something for a couple of hours. It will take that long! When you're done, you'll have a copy of your source drive you can put in the laptop and use.

03-23-2010, 05:36 PM	#14
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	right arm. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-23-2010, 08:01 PM	#15
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	first attempt failed. It was going along with a % complete number for a while, then i checked it and it said 'attempting data recovery' for a long time, and then it said 'copy cancelled.' The f&*^%ing cat had jumped up onto the corner of the keyboard a couple times, so I assumed he had done something..... so I reset it, and cat proofed it....and it started with the % complete thing again....last time i checked it said 8.24% complete....and now...it says 'attempting data recovery' again. I'm concerned that it's cancelled again.... god hates me. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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