Weird News - Page 214

Gravdigr · 10-16-2015, 09:45 AM

It is now legal to carry a concealed handgun without a permit in Maine.

Also, in Vermont, Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas, Montana, Arkansas, Idaho, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Oklahoma, to some extent.

tw · 10-16-2015, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Also, in Vermont, Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas, Montana, Arkansas, Idaho, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Oklahoma, to some extent.

Many of those states are now in the top ten list of most gun deaths per capita.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-16-2015, 09:01 PM

Good, if more states get with it, we can control over population, so there won't be a too many immigrants problem, less demand will drive down the price of food and gas, although the down side is the price of ammo will rise.

Pamela · 10-16-2015, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw

Many of those states are now in the top ten list of most gun deaths per capita.

Please cite evidence.

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Articl...m2XgWDkPsFV.99

xoxoxoBruce · 10-17-2015, 12:28 AM

Are you fucking kidding me? Cite, evidence? From tw?

Undertoad · 10-17-2015, 08:55 AM

When manipulating statistics for one's own use, it is helpful to understand that the numbers for gun deaths are very different from the numbers from gun murders.

There are more gun deaths; that number includes suicides, accidents, and even criminals who were shot by police or other gun owners.

Several of the states on that list are in the top ten in gun deaths. None of them are in the top ten in gun murders.

And that makes complete sense. If gun use in your state is mostly for murder, then your state is into restricting them and requiring permits. If it's for shooting bears, you don't ask people to get permits. Just shoot the damn bears. Now go back and read the list of which states don't require permits, and compare that to the list of which states have bears. Here is the list again:

Maine, Vermont, Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas, Montana, Arkansas, Idaho, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Oklahoma.

12 states, 7 in bear country. None in permanent ghetto underclass country where the gun murders take place.

Lamplighter · 10-17-2015, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

...
Several of the states on that list are in the top ten in gun deaths. None of them are in the top ten in gun murders.
...

I re-sorted the data in UT's link (above) and got this
plot of "Gun Murders [X]" vs "Population Density [Y]".
Except for Florida, the top 10 population densities are all in the NorthEastern US.

Hmmm.... I wonder what that means - the NorthEast is a ghetto ?

xoxoxoBruce · 10-17-2015, 10:52 AM

They all have more big cities with ghettos in them, while ME, VT, AK, AZ, WY, KS, MT, AR, ID, NH, NM, and OK don't have many.
Plotting population density of the state tells me nothing. The density of say PA, is 9th at 286/sq mile. But two places, Philly at 3.85 million and Pittsburg at 2.4 million, account for much of the state's 12.77 million. There's mile after mile of PA with few or no people. Where do you think the murder's are mostly happening?

Lamplighter · 10-17-2015, 11:17 AM

OK, xoB, but now how about applying that same thinking to Pamela's
post/link above about that "Harvard Study Reveals..." ?

Lamplighter · 10-17-2015, 11:19 AM

Ooops, Sorry. I should have said "NRA Study Reveals..."

... and I'm really quarrling with UT's over-use of the word "ghetto"

Undertoad · 10-17-2015, 12:02 PM

What would you like to call those areas, or should we not speak of them?

Lamplighter · 10-17-2015, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

What would you like to call those areas, or should we not speak of them?

We could call them "Walmart shootings"

.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-17-2015, 04:38 PM

That's a tribute to walmart, who's goal is to serve every need of every community.

DanaC · 10-17-2015, 12:14 PM

'Areas of high deprivation' ;p

xoxoxoBruce · 10-17-2015, 01:24 PM

Oh get the fuck outta here, you say that and everyone will... WTF, oh, ghetto, plus think you're a bullshit artist with your "PC" verbadge.

10-16-2015, 09:45 AM	#1
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	It is now legal to carry a concealed handgun without a permit in Maine. Also, in Vermont, Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas, Montana, Arkansas, Idaho, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Oklahoma, to some extent. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

10-16-2015, 09:01 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Good, if more states get with it, we can control over population, so there won't be a too many immigrants problem, less demand will drive down the price of food and gas, although the down side is the price of ammo will rise. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-17-2015, 12:28 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Are you fucking kidding me? Cite, evidence? From tw? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-17-2015, 10:52 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They all have more big cities with ghettos in them, while ME, VT, AK, AZ, WY, KS, MT, AR, ID, NH, NM, and OK don't have many. Plotting population density of the state tells me nothing. The density of say PA, is 9th at 286/sq mile. But two places, Philly at 3.85 million and Pittsburg at 2.4 million, account for much of the state's 12.77 million. There's mile after mile of PA with few or no people. Where do you think the murder's are mostly happening? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-17-2015, 04:38 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's a tribute to walmart, who's goal is to serve every need of every community. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-17-2015, 08:55 AM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	When manipulating statistics for one's own use, it is helpful to understand that the numbers for gun *deaths* are very different from the numbers from gun *murders. There are more gun deaths*; that number includes suicides, accidents, and even criminals who were shot by police or other gun owners. Several of the states on that list are in the top ten in gun deaths. None of them are in the top ten in gun murders. And that makes complete sense. If gun use in your state is mostly for murder, then your state is into restricting them and requiring permits. If it's for shooting bears, you don't ask people to get permits. Just shoot the damn bears. Now go back and read the list of which states don't require permits, and compare that to the list of which states have bears. Here is the list again: Maine, Vermont, Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas, Montana, Arkansas, Idaho, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Oklahoma. 12 states, 7 in bear country. None in permanent ghetto underclass country where the gun murders take place.

10-17-2015, 11:17 AM	#9
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	OK, xoB, but now how about applying that same thinking to Pamela's post/link above about that "Harvard Study Reveals..." ?

10-17-2015, 11:19 AM	#10
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Ooops, Sorry. I should have said "NRA Study Reveals..." ... and I'm really quarrling with UT's over-use of the word "ghetto"

10-17-2015, 12:02 PM	#11
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	What would you like to call those areas, or should we not speak of them?

10-17-2015, 01:24 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Oh get the fuck outta here, you say that and everyone will... WTF, oh, ghetto, plus think you're a bullshit artist with your "PC" verbadge. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 3 (0 members and 3 guests)