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Beestie · 01-17-2005, 10:03 AM

russotto · 01-17-2005, 10:08 AM

The ribbons on the car are a sign of an asshole driver. The more ribbons, the bigger the asshole.

There's flag-patterned ("God Bless the USA", also "Support Our Troops") and yellow ("Support Our Troops"), pink (breast cancer), black (POW/MIA -- this means the driver is a conspiracy theorist and probably also has PTSD), but they all mean "asshole".

dar512 · 01-17-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by russotto

The ribbons on the car are a sign of an asshole driver. The more ribbons, the bigger the asshole.

There's flag-patterned ("God Bless the USA", also "Support Our Troops") and yellow ("Support Our Troops"), pink (breast cancer), black (POW/MIA -- this means the driver is a conspiracy theorist and probably also has PTSD), but they all mean "asshole".

Wow, that's a fair amount of bitterness over what is basically a bumper sticker that you don't have to worry about scraping off. Someone cut you off and that made you feel inferior or what?

BTW, we have one on our van. Mrs. Dar picked it up somewhere. And while I do have one, I am not one. So your hypothesis is provably incorrect.

Troubleshooter · 01-17-2005, 01:04 PM

You can get the graphical list here.

1. NEW Ribbons related to the Attack on America, September 11, 2001
2. Support Fair Reparations for Slavery
3. Colorectal Cancer Awareness
4. Support Spay and Neuter
5. Pancreatic cancer research
6. Promote Behcet's Disease Awareness
7. Q Ribbon - Responsible Journalism on the Internet
8. Blue Ribbon - International No Diet Day
9. Mint Green Ribbon Awareness of Abuse
10. Stop Animal Abuse Purple Ribbon
11. Support Christian Rock
12. Ribbon Awareness
13. Purple Ribbon for Cancer Awareness
14. Pink Ribbon - Breast Cancer Awareness
15. Red Ribbon AIDS Awareness
16. Tartan Ribbon for people in Scotland with AIDS
17. Prostate Cancer Awareness
18. Metallic Gold Ribbom for Childhood Cancer Awareness
19. Lung Cancer Awareness Ribbon
20. Leukemia Awareness
21. Teal Ribbon - fight Ovarian Cancer
22. Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome Awareness
23. Melanoma Awareness
24. EB Awareness
25. Green Ribbon - support of children and persons with optic nerve hypoplasia (ONH) and septo-optic dysplasia (SOD)
26. Support for those dealing with Alzheimers
27. Lukemia - Help save Alana
28. Green Ribbon - Support Organ Donation
29. Silver Ribbon Support Children with disABILITIES
30. Violet Ribbon Artists Against Racism
31. Black and White Ribbon - Victims of Church Bombings
32. Awareness of Crohn's, Colitis, and all IBDs
33. Multiple Myeloma Awareness
34. Anti-Racism Web Page Orange Ribbon Campaign
35. Make a Wish Foundation
36. Zero Tolerance For Child Porn on the 'Net
37. Remember the Innocent (Columbine HS)
38. Blue and Silver ribbon - In Memory, Columbine HS
39. End School Violence
40. Purple Ribbon - Religious Tolerance
41. Remember Matthew Shepard - the green ribbon
42. Blue Ribbon Against Child Abuse
43. Pro-Woman Pro-Child Pro-Peace
44. Blue Ribbon Campaign for Free Speech
45. Yellow ribbon - Light for Life Foundation
46. Pro-life ribbon
47. Chemical Injury Awareness
48. Awareness for EI/MCS!
49. Youth Mentoring International Foundation
50. Free Les Whaley
51. Web Site Individuality
52. Carnival Worker Rights
53. Protest Everything Ribbon Campaign
54. Glitter Ribbon in support of ribbon campaigns!
55. The Pale Brown Ribbon Campaign ("Break Chain Email")
56. The Florescent [sic] Clear Ribbon Campaign ("The ribbon campaign against ribbon campaigns")
57. UFO Ribbon Campaign (UFO free speech)
58. Less Crap Online Brown Ribbon
59. Stop the Leeching Neon Green Ribbon Campaign
60. Anti-Gravity Campaign
61. The Orange Ribbon July '98
62. Stop Hating Leonardo DiCaprio
63. Grey Ribbon - Open ICANN Board Meetings
64. Black Ribbon - Suppressing Hippie-Dom Worldwide
65. Support Amish on the Internet
66. Kesri Ribbon Project
67. Against Circumcision
68. Liberty Round Table Green Ribbon
69. Support Veto 4 Fathers
70. Fuschia Ribbon - I am a Pro-life Feminist
71. Rage Against Chain Letters
72. Pagan Girls
73. Orange Ribbon for families with loved ones in prison
74. Mothers Against Drunk Driving
75. Ironic Speech Online Butt-Ugly Plaid Campaign
76. Fighting to bring back The Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
77. Red and White Ribbon - Justice for Christopher Barkman
78. Remeber the RMS Titanic
79. Ban the Blink Tag!
80. Yellow Ribbon: Operation Just Cause for POW's/MIA's
81. Teens Agains Smoking
82. Fight Against Decaf Coffee!
83. psychadelic ribbon - Keep sifl and olly on the air
84. Polyamory Awareness
85. Van Halen 1977 Warners' Demo Awareness
86. Free Terri Martin!
87. Protect the Flag
88. Capitalist Ribbon
89. Stop Calling Those Annoying E-mails "Spam"
90. Free the Software Market From the Microsoft Monpoly!
91. Support Breastfeeding
92. Stop Abuse Against Our Truckers
93. Cyan Ribbon in support of Microsoft and calling for a Free Market in Technology
94. Polly Klaas Foundation
95. Orange Ribbon Fight the Fingerprint!
96. Black Ribbon - Mouning for the death of America's freedom
97. Addicted to Genealogy
98. Yellow Ribbon No Taxes on the web
99. Online Freedom Federation - Allow Star Trek fan pages
100. The Sick Ribbon Campaign to Ban McZee
101. The 'No Film of Phantom' Campaign
102. Dublane Ribbon Appeal
103. IGHA "HorseAid Purple Ribbon Campaign"
104. Light blue ribbon to show support for the safety and well-being of all children
105. Adopt a Greyhound
106. Support the Color Green
107. Applied Solipsism - the only philosophically proven "who cares"-campaign
108. Cow Appreciation Campaign
109. Support Novac's Ribbon Page
110. Teal Ribbon Campaign for Actual Reality Online
111. White Ribbon - men working to end violence against women
112. Boycott Under Construction Signs Orange Ribbon
113. Saoirse - Release Irish Political Prisoners
114. A Dedication To Jonathan Larson
115. The Rocko Ribbon Campaign
116. I'm Sorry Ribbon Campaign - for people to show their solidarity with the Aboriginal people of this country for the whole "Stolen Children" episode
117. Don't let them downgrade Pluto's status to a moon!
118. Green Ribbon for Latin American Unity
119. Aqua Ribbon in support of social movements for freedom
120. Yellow Ribbon Banana Eagle Awareness (page is mostly in Finnish)
121. Shoes For Industry
122. Asian American Studies in Higher Academia
123. Time for Peace in Ireland
124. The 6-U Green Ribbon World Wide Web Campaign
125. Be Nice to Newbies Campaign
126. Quake Community Green Ribbon Campaign
127. Anti-Politically Correct Brown Ribbon Campaign
128. Anti-Red Ribbon Campaign
129. In Memory of Mother Theresa
130. In Honor of Princess Diana
131. Chombos Chocolate Ribbon Campaign
132. The Bluemchen Addict Orange Ribbon
133. Crimson Ribbon for Unity in Diversity
134. Purple Ribbon for Draconic Equality
135. Ribbon-O-Matic!
136. Support Paula Jones Lavender Ribbon Campaign
137. The Anti-Color Ribbon Campaign
138. Join the PUCE! Ribbon Campaign to fight internet piracy!
139. Free Beer Online Brown Ribbon
140. Green Ribbon Responsibility in free speech
141. The White Ribbon Campaign for Responsibility in Free Speech
142. Stop partial-birth abortions
143. Ban the Stupid! Avocado Ribbon Campaign
144. Multi-colored ribbon against ribbons campaigns
145. Plaid Ribbon - Page Designers for Environmental Preservation
146. Anarchist Black Ribbon Campaign
147. Boycott PackardBell
148. Green Ribbon Campaign for Free Italian Internet Market
149. Black Ribbon - Stop censorship in Singapore
150. Yellow Ribbon For citizens who were imprisoned in Iraq
151. We are NOT nerds! The Lime Ribbon
152. Gray/Silver Ribbon - help fight Diabetes
153. Remembering those in TWA flight 800 in July, 1996
154. Rainbow Ribbon to help Peacelink
155. The Puke Green Ribbon - ending pointless and moronic stuff on the web
156. Another view on censorship!
157. Green Ribbon - Help Find Missing Children
158. Yellow Ribbon - Free Harry Wu
159. Yahoo Sucks
160. Affordable Internet Access In New Zealand
161. Polka Dot Ribbon for proper use of language on the Internet
162. Ecru Ribbon Campaign: Pez Free Speech on the Internet
163. Chrome Ribbon - keep idiots off the Net
164. Scotland Against Nuclear Dumping
165. Canada - support legal firearms
166. Support for the Loyalist people of Ulster
167. Help Preserve Homepages on OPEN.ORG
168. The purple ribbon - Help stop violence
169. Invisible Ribbon Campaign
170. Green Ribbon - Save the Dragons
171. Cow Liberation?
172. Purple Ribbon - Support the Aboa Camarilla
173. Hemp Green Ribbon Campaign

russotto · 01-17-2005, 03:44 PM

Another one today, white ribbon, "Pray for our troops". As with religious bumper stickers, counts double on the "asshole driver" scale.

Brown ribbon: Prostate cancer awareness.

No, I'm making that up, nobody gives a shit about prostate cancer. Err, no pun intended.

garnet · 01-25-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by russotto

There's flag-patterned ("God Bless the USA", also "Support Our Troops") and yellow ("Support Our Troops"), pink (breast cancer), black (POW/MIA -- this means the driver is a conspiracy theorist and probably also has PTSD), but they all mean "asshole.

I live in a city with lots of military personnel, so these magnet ribbon things are all over the place. Hey, whatever floats your boat, but I REALLY hate the ones that say "God Bless the USA." I read that as saying "God, we don't give a shit about anyone else. Just help those of us who happen to be Americans." Stupid.

lookout123 · 01-25-2005, 05:39 PM

it's kind of funny how intolerant some can be regarding those that they view as intolerant.

garnet · 01-25-2005, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

it's kind of funny how intolerant some can be regarding those that they view as intolerant.

And I think it's kinda funny how intolerant some can be about those they think are being intolerant regarding those they view as intolerant.

wolf · 01-25-2005, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet

I live in a city with lots of military personnel, so these magnet ribbon things are all over the place. Hey, whatever floats your boat, but I REALLY hate the ones that say "God Bless the USA." I read that as saying "God, we don't give a shit about anyone else. Just help those of us who happen to be Americans." Stupid.

God is always on "our" side.

Doesn't matter which side you are, or which god you mean.

In WWII there were posters throughout Britain assuring "God is on our side."

There were posters throughout Germany that proclaimed "Gott mit Uns."

garnet · 01-25-2005, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

There were posters throughout Germany that proclaimed "Gott mit Uns."

And that goes to show how silly that concept really is.

Kitsune · 01-17-2005, 02:40 PM

Thanks for the link, Beestie -- its good to see such a group doing such things. I just found out that a collection of people at my office are selling girl scout cookies and that its possible to buy boxes and have them shipped over. Along with an enclosed letter, I don't think I could think of anything that could provide such comfort as that. (Well, maybe plane tickets home...)

warch · 01-18-2005, 03:29 PM

Its not support of anything but fashion driven commerce and that's what is sad.

OnyxCougar · 01-19-2005, 12:27 PM

I really don't understand the vitriol and passion with which some posters dislike the ribbon or sticker or magnet campaigns.

The whole point of these campaigns is to show you support them, financially or with your vote, or whatever. If someone doesn't know what your specific ribbon is for, then they can ask, and perhaps raise the awareness of the public just one person at a time.

Most of us know what yellow ribbons and pink ribbons are for, because we were made aware of them. IMO there is nothing wrong with the ribbons or stickers or magnets.

warch · 01-25-2005, 02:21 PM

Are you in or out!? Join the righteous club house!

wolf · 01-25-2005, 09:33 PM

I really think those metrospy people are a bunch of liberal weenies that are just trying to make fun of and financially exploit conservatives ... who typically have more disposable income, so it's a reasonably good marketing ploy.

I thought this was clever. I have a pin somewhere that says 'My goddess can beat up your god."

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01-17-2005, 01:04 PM	#4
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Here's how stupid the ribbon thing has gotten... You can get the graphical list here. 1. NEW Ribbons related to the Attack on America, September 11, 2001 2. Support Fair Reparations for Slavery 3. Colorectal Cancer Awareness 4. Support Spay and Neuter 5. Pancreatic cancer research 6. Promote Behcet's Disease Awareness 7. Q Ribbon - Responsible Journalism on the Internet 8. Blue Ribbon - International No Diet Day 9. Mint Green Ribbon Awareness of Abuse 10. Stop Animal Abuse Purple Ribbon 11. Support Christian Rock 12. Ribbon Awareness 13. Purple Ribbon for Cancer Awareness 14. Pink Ribbon - Breast Cancer Awareness 15. Red Ribbon AIDS Awareness 16. Tartan Ribbon for people in Scotland with AIDS 17. Prostate Cancer Awareness 18. Metallic Gold Ribbom for Childhood Cancer Awareness 19. Lung Cancer Awareness Ribbon 20. Leukemia Awareness 21. Teal Ribbon - fight Ovarian Cancer 22. Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome Awareness 23. Melanoma Awareness 24. EB Awareness 25. Green Ribbon - support of children and persons with optic nerve hypoplasia (ONH) and septo-optic dysplasia (SOD) 26. Support for those dealing with Alzheimers 27. Lukemia - Help save Alana 28. Green Ribbon - Support Organ Donation 29. Silver Ribbon Support Children with disABILITIES 30. Violet Ribbon Artists Against Racism 31. Black and White Ribbon - Victims of Church Bombings 32. Awareness of Crohn's, Colitis, and all IBDs 33. Multiple Myeloma Awareness 34. Anti-Racism Web Page Orange Ribbon Campaign 35. Make a Wish Foundation 36. Zero Tolerance For Child Porn on the 'Net 37. Remember the Innocent (Columbine HS) 38. Blue and Silver ribbon - In Memory, Columbine HS 39. End School Violence 40. Purple Ribbon - Religious Tolerance 41. Remember Matthew Shepard - the green ribbon 42. Blue Ribbon Against Child Abuse 43. Pro-Woman Pro-Child Pro-Peace 44. Blue Ribbon Campaign for Free Speech 45. Yellow ribbon - Light for Life Foundation 46. Pro-life ribbon 47. Chemical Injury Awareness 48. Awareness for EI/MCS! 49. Youth Mentoring International Foundation 50. Free Les Whaley 51. Web Site Individuality 52. Carnival Worker Rights 53. Protest Everything Ribbon Campaign 54. Glitter Ribbon in support of ribbon campaigns! 55. The Pale Brown Ribbon Campaign ("Break Chain Email") 56. The Florescent [sic] Clear Ribbon Campaign ("The ribbon campaign against ribbon campaigns") 57. UFO Ribbon Campaign (UFO free speech) 58. Less Crap Online Brown Ribbon 59. Stop the Leeching Neon Green Ribbon Campaign 60. Anti-Gravity Campaign 61. The Orange Ribbon July '98 62. Stop Hating Leonardo DiCaprio 63. Grey Ribbon - Open ICANN Board Meetings 64. Black Ribbon - Suppressing Hippie-Dom Worldwide 65. Support Amish on the Internet 66. Kesri Ribbon Project 67. Against Circumcision 68. Liberty Round Table Green Ribbon 69. Support Veto 4 Fathers 70. Fuschia Ribbon - I am a Pro-life Feminist 71. Rage Against Chain Letters 72. Pagan Girls 73. Orange Ribbon for families with loved ones in prison 74. Mothers Against Drunk Driving 75. Ironic Speech Online Butt-Ugly Plaid Campaign 76. Fighting to bring back The Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 77. Red and White Ribbon - Justice for Christopher Barkman 78. Remeber the RMS Titanic 79. Ban the Blink Tag! 80. Yellow Ribbon: Operation Just Cause for POW's/MIA's 81. Teens Agains Smoking 82. Fight Against Decaf Coffee! 83. psychadelic ribbon - Keep sifl and olly on the air 84. Polyamory Awareness 85. Van Halen 1977 Warners' Demo Awareness 86. Free Terri Martin! 87. Protect the Flag 88. Capitalist Ribbon 89. Stop Calling Those Annoying E-mails "Spam" 90. Free the Software Market From the Microsoft Monpoly! 91. Support Breastfeeding 92. Stop Abuse Against Our Truckers 93. Cyan Ribbon in support of Microsoft and calling for a Free Market in Technology 94. Polly Klaas Foundation 95. Orange Ribbon Fight the Fingerprint! 96. Black Ribbon - Mouning for the death of America's freedom 97. Addicted to Genealogy 98. Yellow Ribbon No Taxes on the web 99. Online Freedom Federation - Allow Star Trek fan pages 100. The Sick Ribbon Campaign to Ban McZee 101. The 'No Film of Phantom' Campaign 102. Dublane Ribbon Appeal 103. IGHA "HorseAid Purple Ribbon Campaign" 104. Light blue ribbon to show support for the safety and well-being of all children 105. Adopt a Greyhound 106. Support the Color Green 107. Applied Solipsism - the only philosophically proven "who cares"-campaign 108. Cow Appreciation Campaign 109. Support Novac's Ribbon Page 110. Teal Ribbon Campaign for Actual Reality Online 111. White Ribbon - men working to end violence against women 112. Boycott Under Construction Signs Orange Ribbon 113. Saoirse - Release Irish Political Prisoners 114. A Dedication To Jonathan Larson 115. The Rocko Ribbon Campaign 116. I'm Sorry Ribbon Campaign - for people to show their solidarity with the Aboriginal people of this country for the whole "Stolen Children" episode 117. Don't let them downgrade Pluto's status to a moon! 118. Green Ribbon for Latin American Unity 119. Aqua Ribbon in support of social movements for freedom 120. Yellow Ribbon Banana Eagle Awareness (page is mostly in Finnish) 121. Shoes For Industry 122. Asian American Studies in Higher Academia 123. Time for Peace in Ireland 124. The 6-U Green Ribbon World Wide Web Campaign 125. Be Nice to Newbies Campaign 126. Quake Community Green Ribbon Campaign 127. Anti-Politically Correct Brown Ribbon Campaign 128. Anti-Red Ribbon Campaign 129. In Memory of Mother Theresa 130. In Honor of Princess Diana 131. Chombos Chocolate Ribbon Campaign 132. The Bluemchen Addict Orange Ribbon 133. Crimson Ribbon for Unity in Diversity 134. Purple Ribbon for Draconic Equality 135. Ribbon-O-Matic! 136. Support Paula Jones Lavender Ribbon Campaign 137. The Anti-Color Ribbon Campaign 138. Join the PUCE! Ribbon Campaign to fight internet piracy! 139. Free Beer Online Brown Ribbon 140. Green Ribbon Responsibility in free speech 141. The White Ribbon Campaign for Responsibility in Free Speech 142. Stop partial-birth abortions 143. Ban the Stupid! Avocado Ribbon Campaign 144. Multi-colored ribbon against ribbons campaigns 145. Plaid Ribbon - Page Designers for Environmental Preservation 146. Anarchist Black Ribbon Campaign 147. Boycott PackardBell 148. Green Ribbon Campaign for Free Italian Internet Market 149. Black Ribbon - Stop censorship in Singapore 150. Yellow Ribbon For citizens who were imprisoned in Iraq 151. We are NOT nerds! The Lime Ribbon 152. Gray/Silver Ribbon - help fight Diabetes 153. Remembering those in TWA flight 800 in July, 1996 154. Rainbow Ribbon to help Peacelink 155. The Puke Green Ribbon - ending pointless and moronic stuff on the web 156. Another view on censorship! 157. Green Ribbon - Help Find Missing Children 158. Yellow Ribbon - Free Harry Wu 159. Yahoo Sucks 160. Affordable Internet Access In New Zealand 161. Polka Dot Ribbon for proper use of language on the Internet 162. Ecru Ribbon Campaign: Pez Free Speech on the Internet 163. Chrome Ribbon - keep idiots off the Net 164. Scotland Against Nuclear Dumping 165. Canada - support legal firearms 166. Support for the Loyalist people of Ulster 167. Help Preserve Homepages on OPEN.ORG 168. The purple ribbon - Help stop violence 169. Invisible Ribbon Campaign 170. Green Ribbon - Save the Dragons 171. Cow Liberation? 172. Purple Ribbon - Support the Aboa Camarilla 173. Hemp Green Ribbon Campaign __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

01-25-2005, 05:39 PM	#7
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	it's kind of funny how intolerant some can be regarding those that they view as intolerant. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

01-19-2005, 12:27 PM	#13
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	I really don't understand the vitriol and passion with which some posters dislike the ribbon or sticker or magnet campaigns. The whole point of these campaigns is to show you support them, financially or with your vote, or whatever. If someone doesn't know what your specific ribbon is for, then they can ask, and perhaps raise the awareness of the public just one person at a time. Most of us know what yellow ribbons and pink ribbons are for, because we were made aware of them. IMO there is nothing wrong with the ribbons or stickers or magnets. __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

01-25-2005, 09:33 PM	#15
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I really think those metrospy people are a bunch of liberal weenies that are just trying to make fun of and financially exploit conservatives ... who typically have more disposable income, so it's a reasonably good marketing ploy. I thought this was clever. I have a pin somewhere that says 'My goddess can beat up your god." __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-17-2005, 10:08 AM	#2
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	The ribbons on the car are a sign of an asshole driver. The more ribbons, the bigger the asshole. There's flag-patterned ("God Bless the USA", also "Support Our Troops") and yellow ("Support Our Troops"), pink (breast cancer), black (POW/MIA -- this means the driver is a conspiracy theorist and probably also has PTSD), but they all mean "asshole".

01-17-2005, 03:44 PM	#5
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	Another one today, white ribbon, "Pray for our troops". As with religious bumper stickers, counts double on the "asshole driver" scale. Brown ribbon: Prostate cancer awareness. No, I'm making that up, nobody gives a shit about prostate cancer. Err, no pun intended.

01-17-2005, 02:40 PM	#11
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Thanks for the link, Beestie -- its good to see such a group doing such things. I just found out that a collection of people at my office are selling girl scout cookies and that its possible to buy boxes and have them shipped over. Along with an enclosed letter, I don't think I could think of anything that could provide such comfort as that. (Well, maybe plane tickets home...)

01-18-2005, 03:29 PM	#12
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Its not support of anything but fashion driven commerce and that's what is sad.

01-25-2005, 02:21 PM	#14
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Are you in or out!? Join the righteous club house!

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