DNC news, or lack thereof - Page 2

lookout123 · 07-28-2004, 12:45 PM

ok, why is drudge not a good source, and how do you know that the guy who wrote the book is a "nut".

nobody has called the guy that Kerry rescued a nut, so why would you assume that the guy who replaced him is one?

Happy Monkey · 07-28-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

nobody has called the guy that carried rescued a nut,

Who?

Here's a good rundown on John E. O'Neil. He was hired by Nixon to attack Kerry, and has been brought out of retirement by Bush. He loves to give the impression that he served with Kerry, but he didn't meet him until a debate on the Dick Cavett Show.

Drudge is a tabloid. His exclusives are as likely to be untrue as they are to be true - he doesn't check. And he's not above altering his sources to suit his convenience.

lookout123 · 07-28-2004, 01:33 PM

i've never heard him claim that he served with Kerry. he served in the same unit after Kerry with many of the same men that Kerry was with.
there are people in the US air force that i've never worked directly with that i can speak volumes(both good and bad) about because i have gone into units after them.

anyway - i don't really care one way or another about the guy. it was a story involving the dnc so i posted it.

and drudge is a moron for not crediting the guy with a photo, but drudge doesn't just make shit up either - he doesn't generally write much, choosing instead to link to others. he is a one man version of the cellar; just putting all of his links in a row.

Happy Monkey · 07-28-2004, 01:35 PM

He altered the photo.

lookout123 · 07-28-2004, 02:42 PM

he obviously altered the photo so he wouldn't have to credit the guy. stupid. but flipping a photo is not tantamount to falsification of news stories.

Happy Monkey · 07-28-2004, 03:27 PM

Come on. He flipped the photo and altered the street signs and traffic light. That is an active attempt to falsify something that doesn't even matter. Why would you think he'd be more scrupulous on something he actually cared about?

But regardless, I didn't say he falsified news stories. I said he doesn't check whether they are true or not before publishing.

warch · 07-28-2004, 06:00 PM

Look out Lookout. You sound like a party feed.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-28-2004, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

uh, he did re-enact his exploits for film. there are a lot of people out there who still think the clips they've seen are from actual combat.

There's a lot of people out there that think Saddam attacked the WTC on 9-11.

lookout123 · 07-28-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

There's a lot of people out there that think Saddam attacked the WTC on 9-11.

then they are also would win the award for dipshit of the year.

warch - you can think what you want about my views. back when the democratic primaries were first gearing up and kerry started showing the clips i threw the bullshit card. i can't find the quote now, but a couple of the guys who were with kerry in his navy days have said that he referred to himself as the next JFK from Mass. these weren't ( and i don't think they are) negative or sniping comments. they are simply an example of the fact that Kerry planned on a political career, as many Yaleys do, even at that early date.

my view, of it is that he made the films back then so that he could use them in the future, if and when appropriate for his political career. he has every right in the world to do so - i think it is unfortunate that there are people out there who think the film clips actually show him in combat situations.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-28-2004, 06:43 PM

Maybe he made them to impress some future rich chick.

lookout123 · 07-28-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Maybe he made them to impress some future rich chick.

or 2

lookout123 · 08-12-2004, 07:41 PM

Acceptance Anecdote
In his acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention last month, John Kerry told the story of Mary Ann Knowles, a New Hampshire woman with breast cancer who Kerry said, "had to keep working day after day right through her chemotherapy, no matter how sick she felt, because she was terrified of losing her family's health insurance."

But New Hampshire's Union Leader newspaper reports Knowles had 26 weeks of paid disability leave available, and was never in danger of losing her insurance.

warch · 08-16-2004, 11:08 AM

Those damn cancer patients. Just like them damn welfare mamas. Always trying to rip off the man.

lookout123 · 08-17-2004, 11:37 AM

It is a little late in coming, but here is George Will's column addressing Kerry's speech at the DNC convention.

George Will

07-28-2004, 12:45 PM	#16
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	ok, why is drudge not a good source, and how do you know that the guy who wrote the book is a "nut". nobody has called the guy that Kerry rescued a nut, so why would you assume that the guy who replaced him is one? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin Last edited by lookout123; 07-28-2004 at 01:16 PM.

07-28-2004, 01:33 PM	#18
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	i've never heard him claim that he served with Kerry. he served in the same unit after Kerry with many of the same men that Kerry was with. there are people in the US air force that i've never worked directly with that i can speak volumes(both good and bad) about because i have gone into units after them. anyway - i don't really care one way or another about the guy. it was a story involving the dnc so i posted it. and drudge is a moron for not crediting the guy with a photo, but drudge doesn't just make shit up either - he doesn't generally write much, choosing instead to link to others. he is a one man version of the cellar; just putting all of his links in a row. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-28-2004, 01:35 PM	#19
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	He altered the photo. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-28-2004, 02:42 PM	#20
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	he obviously altered the photo so he wouldn't have to credit the guy. stupid. but flipping a photo is not tantamount to falsification of news stories. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-28-2004, 03:27 PM	#21
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Come on. He flipped the photo and altered the street signs and traffic light. That is an active attempt to falsify something that doesn't even matter. Why would you think he'd be more scrupulous on something he actually cared about? But regardless, I didn't say he falsified news stories. I said he doesn't check whether they are true or not before publishing. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-28-2004, 06:00 PM	#22
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Look out Lookout. You sound like a party feed.

07-28-2004, 06:43 PM	#25
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Maybe he made them to impress some future rich chick. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-12-2004, 07:41 PM	#27
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Update Acceptance Anecdote In his acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention last month, John Kerry told the story of Mary Ann Knowles, a New Hampshire woman with breast cancer who Kerry said, "had to keep working day after day right through her chemotherapy, no matter how sick she felt, because she was terrified of losing her family's health insurance." But New Hampshire's Union Leader newspaper reports Knowles had 26 weeks of paid disability leave available, and was never in danger of losing her insurance. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

08-16-2004, 11:08 AM	#28
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Those damn cancer patients. Just like them damn welfare mamas. Always trying to rip off the man.

08-17-2004, 11:37 AM	#29
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	It is a little late in coming, but here is George Will's column addressing Kerry's speech at the DNC convention. George Will __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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