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jaguar · 06-15-2004, 04:57 PM

It's like having a tutor =)
Compression screwed it up but both eyes are now 'looking' in the same direction as well.

SteveDallas · 06-15-2004, 05:26 PM

So jaguar do you draw in "real life"? I've always wanted to do stuff like that but my very rudimentary dabbling has convinced me that one is unlikely to get good results with these computer programs unless you have some artistic instincts/skills in the first place.

(It looks great, BTW.)

jaguar · 06-15-2004, 05:30 PM

I can reasonably and I've had a fair grounding in drawing and design theory which helps no end, with this kind of thing I can kind of 'see' where shadows need to go, the more I do it the more honed the sense gets.

The first drawings I did that I liked I did by simply tracing the outline of a picture and filling it in, it gives you a feel for how things work and proportions, then you can start from scratch.

Beestie · 06-15-2004, 05:32 PM

That's awesome. Excellent contrast. But as you indicated, the eyes are not looking in the same direction - its slight but noticeable. Good stuff.

blue · 06-15-2004, 05:37 PM

People with this much talent piss me off. But yeah the boobs are too small, so you're not perfect.

Nice work Jag. Does this mean you figured out the cel shading thing?

jaguar · 06-15-2004, 05:38 PM

yea, I just gave up on the concept of outlines attached to shapes, you can't get enough definition do this kind of drawing with that anyway.

wolf · 06-15-2004, 10:20 PM

Welcome back, breakingnews! Been wondering what you'd been up to ...

Strangely, I also thought she needed bigger boobs.

and try softening the undereye shadows some more, mebbe diffusing them somewhat? She looks like she was punched a while back and is a week past raccoon stage.

jaguar · 06-16-2004, 01:38 AM

She's meant to be fairly young which is why I didn't make them any bigger. The undereye shadows shitted me for about half an hour last night but I couldn't get them to work, I'll play again this morning for a bit.

warch · 06-16-2004, 11:38 AM

The under eye shadows seem to land on her upper cheek bones, a bit low and broad. Maybe try to contour the face from the side- the temples, the cheek?

jaguar · 06-16-2004, 11:57 AM

will do =D

lumberjim · 06-16-2004, 12:52 PM

fwiw, jag, i think the eye shading is fine

jaguar · 06-16-2004, 01:14 PM

I feel strangely violated.

SteveDallas · 06-16-2004, 01:23 PM

Yeah, if LJ violates you you KNOW it's going to be strange.

lumberjim · 06-16-2004, 01:42 PM

think of it along the terms of being famous. you know you've arrived when you make the tabloids. feel better?

jaguar · 06-17-2004, 11:46 AM

i think i prefer the martyrdom of obscurity

no realy offense taken, don't worry

The other one is now looking gorgeous, i'll post a final version for critique soon.

This one just isn't coming together and I can't sem to work out why, warch?

06-15-2004, 04:57 PM	#16
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	It's like having a tutor =) Compression screwed it up but both eyes are now 'looking' in the same direction as well. Attached Images __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain Last edited by jaguar; 06-15-2004 at 05:01 PM.

06-15-2004, 05:30 PM	#18
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	I can reasonably and I've had a fair grounding in drawing and design theory which helps no end, with this kind of thing I can kind of 'see' where shadows need to go, the more I do it the more honed the sense gets. The first drawings I did that I liked I did by simply tracing the outline of a picture and filling it in, it gives you a feel for how things work and proportions, then you can start from scratch. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

06-15-2004, 05:32 PM	#19
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	That's awesome. Excellent contrast. But as you indicated, the eyes are not looking in the same direction - its slight but noticeable. Good stuff. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

06-15-2004, 05:37 PM	#20
blue Operations Operative Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern WI Posts: 739	People with this much talent piss me off. But yeah the boobs are too small, so you're not perfect. Nice work Jag. Does this mean you figured out the cel shading thing? __________________ If you spot a tornado, always remember to point at it, yell "tornado!", and run like hell.

06-15-2004, 05:38 PM	#21
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	yea, I just gave up on the concept of outlines attached to shapes, you can't get enough definition do this kind of drawing with that anyway. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

06-15-2004, 05:26 PM	#17
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	So jaguar do you draw in "real life"? I've always wanted to do stuff like that but my very rudimentary dabbling has convinced me that one is unlikely to get good results with these computer programs unless you have some artistic instincts/skills in the first place. (It looks great, BTW.)

06-15-2004, 10:20 PM	#22
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Welcome back, breakingnews! Been wondering what you'd been up to ... Strangely, I also thought she needed bigger boobs. and try softening the undereye shadows some more, mebbe diffusing them somewhat? She looks like she was punched a while back and is a week past raccoon stage. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-16-2004, 01:38 AM	#23
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	She's meant to be fairly young which is why I didn't make them any bigger. The undereye shadows shitted me for about half an hour last night but I couldn't get them to work, I'll play again this morning for a bit. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

06-16-2004, 11:38 AM	#24
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	The under eye shadows seem to land on her upper cheek bones, a bit low and broad. Maybe try to contour the face from the side- the temples, the cheek?

06-16-2004, 11:57 AM	#25
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	will do =D __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

06-16-2004, 12:52 PM	#26
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	fwiw, jag, i think the eye shading is fine Attached Images __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

06-16-2004, 01:14 PM	#27
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	I feel strangely violated. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

06-16-2004, 01:23 PM	#28
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Yeah, if LJ violates you you KNOW it's going to be strange.

06-16-2004, 01:42 PM	#29
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	think of it along the terms of being famous. you know you've arrived when you make the tabloids. feel better? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

06-17-2004, 11:46 AM	#30
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	i think i prefer the martyrdom of obscurity no realy offense taken, don't worry The other one is now looking gorgeous, i'll post a final version for critique soon. This one just isn't coming together and I can't sem to work out why, warch? Attached Images __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

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