Superstitious People - Dealing With them

Originally posted by FileNotFound
I also find it odd that you talk of "giving back to the community" and parade about proudly with your "I flame the people I proclaim to be retards!" banner.

I'm hardly a super-valuable user. But I have given back to the community in a number of ways. I treat it with the respect that it deserves. I help members in the community when I can. I've given financially (see the PayPal link at the bottom?) to help support it.

The rest was just attacking people who disagreed with you... I suppose it's cause they were retards.

When someone disagrees with me, it's disagreeing. When I disagree with someone, it's attacking? Perhaps you should re-read what I've posted. Ask Dagney if she feels as though I attacked her or she got the impression that I just strongly disagreed with her.

Do you feel intimidated or something? Have I taken your "job" of flaming the retards away from you so now you flame me?

Yes, that's it.

Actually, I appreciate people that flame the retards, because it cuts down on my workload and gives me more time to pursue more useful activities. I stated very clearly any issues I had with you; if you have not picked them up, your inability to comprehend written English is the problem. Not listed was "I am intimidated". I'm not the type to be intimidated by self-important kids with retarded girlfriends.

I'm full of myself enough to believe that it will be your loss and not mine.

Yeah, you're probably right. We're probably better off now that we've got you. Please don't leave; I'm just not sure what we would do or how we would manage. What we really need right now is an arrogant immigrant feeding everyone's insecurities. Praise Allah for FileNotFound!

[FileNotFound]

I'm hardly a super-valuable user. But I have given back to the community in a number of ways. I treat it with the respect that it deserves. I help members in the community when I can. I've given financially (see the PayPal link at the bottom?) to help support it.

So you're saying that if I PayPal...say $50 I can be a total jerk for a month?

Sounds like a good deal...can I get some details.

Oh as far as your problem with me, I believe it was that I didn't like Quake 3. I was afraid that it'd break your heart, seems I was right.

Also, please shine some light on why you feel that it's important to point out that I'm an immigrant.

Originally posted by FileNotFound
So you're saying that if I PayPal...say $50 I can be a total jerk for a month?

Sounds like a good deal...can I get some details.

Oh as far as your problem with me, I believe it was that I didn't like Quake 3. I was afraid that it'd break your heart, seems I was right.

Also, please shine some light on why you feel that it's important to point out that I'm an immigrant.

I have no problem with you not liking Q3. My issue is with you being an ass. I thought I made that pretty clear, but as you've demonstrated a few times now, you're not able to read properly.

I pointed out you're an immigrant because people come to this country when their situation somewhere else is less than ideal, and even though they're different, they're generally accepted and welcomed. I find it ironic that someone who has been through as much as you presumably have would be so quick to be such an asshole to another person that's struggling with life.

[lumberjim]

CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE IN HERE, PEOPLE?

[Undertoad]

So you're saying that if I PayPal...say $50 I can be a total jerk for a month?

There's also a subscription model if you want to re-up regularly.

[ladysycamore]

Originally posted by FileNotFound
I just don't know how to deal with this. She seems to have NO desire to give in and no interest in any compromise. She claims to know for a FACT that computers emit hazardos levels of radiation and laptops are also very dangerous. In fact she looks at me like I'm the biggest idiot in the world when I say that computers do not emit any harmful radiation etc...

Counter her arguments with facts that you have obtained from the internet, library, etc. In fact, if at all possible, give her so many facts that counter anything she has to say, that she'll HAVE to "fall back" and think about what's she's told you.

At least, I'd hope it would work out that way...Good luck in however you handle this.

[juju]

I think you should dump her. I know it's hard, but you deserve so much better, and you surely can't spend the next 20 years like this.

[SteveDallas]

I'm with juju. You have no reason to believe that every disagreement you have won't turn out like this, and that's bad news.

[xoxoxoBruce]

She seems concerned with sterility (yours) so get tested. Also remind her if she gets pregnant, she'll have to lay off the computer, "for the baby".

[Nothing But Net]

I think I understand your problem. Beestie alluded to it earlier but you were so busy feeling sorry for yourself you apparently didn't notice.

If you spend 120 hours per week at the computer, even if you average only 6 hours of sleep a night that's only 6 fucking hours of free time per week!

If she really is your GF, it's a cry for attention, dude. Go pork her like she's Petunia and see if her backache doesn't get better.

And shut off the fucking computer once in a while.

[Torrere]

Originally posted by ladysycamore
Counter her arguments with facts that you have obtained from the internet, library, etc. In fact, if at all possible, give her so many facts that counter anything she has to say, that she'll HAVE to "fall back" and think about what's she's told you.

This will not work, because as FNF's post and Beestie's response have suggested, the real problem is not 'harmful computer radiation'. The real problem is probably not her being superstitious, either. The chimera has grafted both of these minor disagreements into itself. The argument about harmful computer radiation will be invincible until the problem behind it has been resolved.

I ask if the sole purpose of her call is to argue with me, she said yes, I told her I had no time for that bullshit and hung up...
Re-read this. There is a problem on both ends of the line.

I'm furious, I hung up on her and today instead of going home I inted to go out with some friends instead.

I tell her that I'm an MCSE and built more computers than I can remember, I know everything there is to know about PCs
With a mindset focused on causing problems, this will sound elitist and not trustworthy.

The quickest way to piss me off is to insist on something totaly illogical...and she mastered it.
So the reason that this has become a problem is because she knew that it would irritate you. If it did not, then something else would be the problem.

NO desire to give in and no interest in any compromise
Then it isn't an honest problem.

The 'harmful computer radiation' problem is a distraction from the real problem. I would estimate that the real problem is not superstition, either.

Since there is a problem with both of you, the easiest way (although not necessarily the most solid way) to solve this is to solve the problem on your end. I don't know what the problem is. It will probably crop up elsewhere in your life, but since romance and such strong emotion tends to blur reason, the problem might be easier to diagnose in areas of your life other than your romantic relationship.

[tw]

Originally posted by FileNotFound
For the recrod. Yes computers do emit some radiation, yes it is somewhat 'harmful' but I get more radiation from 5 minutes in the sun then from years of PC use.

Yes computers do radiate. I have a meter to measure this. Radiation has never once been proven harmful. In fact the original Scadanavian study that claimed electricity caused diseases was years later discovered false - once the author's data was finally studied. However no headlines reported that condlusion was fudged. That radiation has never once been corrolated with any disease. That back ache is more typical of something far devious - old age. I have had a few and don't blame the moon.

However get into a car and start it. The radiation meter is almost pegged. If your computer is causing he problems, then automobile dashboard must be killing her.

Do you have central air conditioning or an electric stove? That wire inside wall or underneath bedroom floor is then a greater threat. Worrying about the computer is nonsense if she first will not come to grips with greater threats - such as fields from an electric iron that consumes maybe ten times more current.

The problem. It is how propagandist are so successful. Once someone believes a fact (even without any justification), then that believer will hold all others to a much greater standard. No matter that the belief had no logical reasons. Tons of logical facts cannot change that 'convinced' mind. Again, this is why propaganda is so successful.

I don't have a good solution for this. If she will not acknowledge that the electric stove and automobile dash board is a greater threat (as demonstrated by meters), then logic would probably be useless.

It is what has been changing in America. Superstiton and supernatural beliefs, miracle herbs, nonsense health foods, magic diets and a pill to solve an a nutrition problem, etc are increasing. Logical fact be damned.

[Bitman]

Originally posted by FileNotFound
I do not believe in god because it can't be scientificaly proven

God's <i>absense</i> has never been proven either ...

[Torrere]

Originally posted by Nothing But Net
Go pork her like she's Petunia and see if her backache doesn't get better.

We may have a winner here.

[juju]

Perhaps if he obtained one of these meters, that would be proof enough? Where can one obtain them, and at what cost?