Sexual assault - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 08-29-2003, 05:36 PM

Sure I can. My conclusion is based on the article I linked, as written. I'm not reading between the lines or making any assumptions.
If the article is incorrect or incomplete then all bets are off but in the mean time, Grrrrrr.

juju · 08-29-2003, 11:17 PM

There's always more to the story.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-30-2003, 09:32 AM

Of course there is but I have enough trouble finding out as much as possible about situations that require me to take some sort of action. Especially if that action affects other people.
On shit like this I'm allowed to vent, like the idiot I am, because it doesn't hurt anybody and if I'm wrong then I can always blame the reporter.
If this were a local case and Ms. Kornblum was on the local payroll or better yet local ballot, I'd make sure I found out as much as possible before judging the rotten bitch.

Tobiasly · 08-30-2003, 11:15 AM

I'm getting all my information from the article too, Bruce. The girl entered a plea, whereas I'm assuming the boy didn't, or else it would probably mention it.

Maybe if the boy pleads guilty to fourth degree-sexual assault as well, the charge of second-degree sexual assault will be dropped. Maybe that's exactly what the girl did. That's called a plea bargain.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-30-2003, 05:36 PM

Are we reading the same article? All I see is the girl pleaded guilty to 4th degree. It doesn't say there was a bargain to reduce the charges in return for her plea. I think you're making an assumption based on usual procedure but it doesn't say that.
It also says in her case, she was going to brainwashing that all parties agreed she needed. I'd assume she was included in "all" parties which tells me she acquiesed to her parents and the courts.
He on the other hand, apparently did not plead guilty but it doesn't say if a deal was offered. Delayed sentencing tells me he was found guilty. He was ordered by the court to follow a program, which he did not, so I guess he was not prepared to be broken yet.
So ladies and gentlemen of the jury, Ms Kornblum is a rotten bitch untill proven innocent.

Tobiasly · 08-31-2003, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
So ladies and gentlemen of the jury, Ms Kornblum is a rotten bitch untill proven innocent.

I don't disagree with that, and yes I'm making assumptions based on usual procedure. They are being treated differently, and I'm trying to figure out why. I'm just not prepared to believe right off that bat that it's because he's a boy and she's a girl.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-31-2003, 11:25 AM

I suspect it had a lot to do with attitude.
The girl, although defiant in the original confrontation, obviously caved when separated from her boyfriend and confronted by parents and courts without him.
The boy probably coped an attitude, having suffered coitus interuptus and blue balls.
The thing that bothers me most is there's a 14 year old girl out there that wants it and they conceal her identity.

Whit · 08-31-2003, 02:02 PM

     Bad Bruce! Very bad! The correct young ones to be chasing after attend college, not Jr. High.
     By the by, the way I read it the boy caved to, cut a deal, then broke his word and the deal. His dad ratted him out. Thus he gets busted big time.
     For the record, it's MHO that everyone involved with this story is screwed. The adults are either bullying or trying to treat the kids like they care about their future. Neither will work. Okay, maybe it worked a little on the girl. The kids though, for christ's sake, a dumbass punk like this kid and they think he'll follow the rules he agrees to? Not a chance. I base calling him a punk off of having a record at 14, and the dumbass part off of him getting caught before he got any. I mean getting away with it at that age is simple as hell. Idiots.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-01-2003, 12:33 AM

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Bad Bruce! Very bad! The correct young ones to be chasing after attend college, not Jr. High.

No chasing. I just prop up a box with a stick. Tie a string to the stick and put an autographed photo of Brit Spears under the box. I think the box and stick came from Acme Dating Service.

darclauz · 09-24-2003, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by Whit
     Bad Bruce! Very bad! The correct young ones to be chasing after attend college, not Jr. High.
     By the by, the way I read it the boy caved to, cut a deal, then broke his word and the deal. His dad ratted him out. Thus he gets busted big time.
     For the record, it's MHO that everyone involved with this story is screwed. The adults are either bullying or trying to treat the kids like they care about their future. Neither will work. Okay, maybe it worked a little on the girl. The kids though, for christ's sake, a dumbass punk like this kid and they think he'll follow the rules he agrees to? Not a chance. I base calling him a punk off of having a record at 14, and the dumbass part off of him getting caught before he got any. I mean getting away with it at that age is simple as hell. Idiots.

I know i'm posting much after the relevant discussion has passed, but i would like to venture out on a limb and say it's abercrombie and fitch's fault.

Whit · 09-25-2003, 11:42 PM

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From me:
...him getting caught before he got any.

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From Darclauz:
...it's abercrombie and fitch's fault.

      Why? Is their clothing particulary hard to get out of or take longer to get off or something?

darclauz · 09-26-2003, 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by Whit
      Why? Is their clothing particulary hard to get out of or take longer to get off or something?

no -- their fall catalog essentially sells sex to kids. about a third of the models are totally unclothed...the rest of them are featured in beds together...two guys and a girl, two girls and a guy (bruce? bruce?) etc. it's porn for teens!!!

warch · 09-26-2003, 10:02 AM

Sex really doesnt need much of a hard sell.

SteveDallas · 09-26-2003, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by darclauz
it's porn for teens!!!

Why just for teens? I didn't see any maximum age limit posted on their site!!

Oh, wait... is this the same company that caused a minor tempest in a teapot a couple years back for selling thongs to 10-year-olds?

juju · 09-26-2003, 10:53 AM

Here's some sample pics from the catalog. You can judge for yourselves.

08-29-2003, 05:36 PM	#16
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Sure I can. My conclusion is based on the article I linked, as written. I'm not reading between the lines or making any assumptions. If the article is incorrect or incomplete then all bets are off but in the mean time, Grrrrrr. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-30-2003, 09:32 AM	#18
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Of course there is but I have enough trouble finding out as much as possible about situations that require me to take some sort of action. Especially if that action affects other people. On shit like this I'm allowed to vent, like the idiot I am, because it doesn't hurt anybody and if I'm wrong then I can always blame the reporter. If this were a local case and Ms. Kornblum was on the local payroll or better yet local ballot, I'd make sure I found out as much as possible before judging the rotten bitch. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-30-2003, 05:36 PM	#20
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Are we reading the same article? All I see is the girl pleaded guilty to 4th degree. It doesn't say there was a bargain to reduce the charges in return for her plea. I think you're making an assumption based on usual procedure but it doesn't say that. It also says in her case, she was going to brainwashing that all parties agreed she needed. I'd assume she was included in "all" parties which tells me she acquiesed to her parents and the courts. He on the other hand, apparently did not plead guilty but it doesn't say if a deal was offered. Delayed sentencing tells me he was found guilty. He was ordered by the court to follow a program, which he did not, so I guess he was not prepared to be broken yet. So ladies and gentlemen of the jury, Ms Kornblum is a rotten bitch untill proven innocent. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-31-2003, 11:25 AM	#22
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I suspect it had a lot to do with attitude. The girl, although defiant in the original confrontation, obviously caved when separated from her boyfriend and confronted by parents and courts without him. The boy probably coped an attitude, having suffered coitus interuptus and blue balls. The thing that bothers me most is there's a 14 year old girl out there that wants it and they conceal her identity. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-31-2003, 02:02 PM	#23
Whit Umm ... yeah. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 949	Bad Bruce! Very bad! The correct young ones to be chasing after attend college, not Jr. High.      By the by, the way I read it the boy caved to, cut a deal, then broke his word and the deal. His dad ratted him out. Thus he gets busted big time.      For the record, it's MHO that everyone involved with this story is screwed. The adults are either bullying or trying to treat the kids like they care about their future. Neither will work. Okay, maybe it worked a little on the girl. The kids though, for christ's sake, a dumbass punk like this kid and they think he'll follow the rules he agrees to? Not a chance. I base calling him a punk off of having a record at 14, and the dumbass part off of him getting caught before he got any. I mean getting away with it at that age is simple as hell. Idiots. __________________ A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move a body.

08-29-2003, 11:17 PM	#17
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	There's always more to the story.

08-30-2003, 11:15 AM	#19
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	I'm getting all my information from the article too, Bruce. The girl entered a plea, whereas I'm assuming the boy didn't, or else it would probably mention it. Maybe if the boy pleads guilty to fourth degree-sexual assault as well, the charge of second-degree sexual assault will be dropped. Maybe that's exactly what the girl did. That's called a plea bargain.

09-26-2003, 10:02 AM	#28
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Sex really doesnt need much of a hard sell.

09-26-2003, 10:53 AM	#30
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Here's some sample pics from the catalog. You can judge for yourselves. Last edited by juju; 09-26-2003 at 10:56 AM.

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