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Old 04-24-2018, 05:30 PM   #1
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... inventing new rights to be violated, such as the right not to be offended. That's not a right; in fact exactly the opposite, it's specifically meant to control speech, and really, to control thought.
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How about the right not to be offended by consenting adults who are sharing/communicating explicit material via the internet which does not objectify much less "traffic" anyone, and specifically only involves (in ANY way) the willing, consenting, adult participants?
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Old 04-24-2018, 05:56 PM   #2
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Offensive speech even in tonight's news. Rather than do research for a Veterans Administration secretary, the Donald did (last month) what the emotional do. He promoted his White House doctor.

Turns out this doctor (Jackson) was demeaning, offensive, an over aggressive pill pusher, and may have come to work drunk. Rather than admit he did not do what an adult does (do the research), the Donald instead attacked to so many who came forward with facts. It took about a month for reality to get to the Donald.

How many citizens so hate America as to believe the Donald's offensive accusations rather than learn facts? Too many.
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I don’t want to put a man through a process like this. The fact is, I wouldn’t do it. What does he need it for? To be abused by a number of politicians?
What would an adult do? Learn how this president makes decisions only based upon his first emotions. He promoted someone he knows (but not very well) and without doing any homework. He could not bother to find a person who is best and qualified for the job.

Ironically, he fired the previous (and well respected) administrator via a Tweet. This president does not have the balls to fire anyone personally - and with facts that justify that decision.

How do bullies obtain support and power? How does he justify his ignorance? He offensively attacks others. That makes hiim popular among adults who are still children.
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:10 PM   #3
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How about the right not to be offended by consenting adults who are sharing/communicating explicit material via the internet which does not objectify much less "traffic" anyone, and specifically only involves (in ANY way) the willing, consenting, adult participants?
That represents about 30% of Internet traffic, as of a few years ago. The Internet is For Porn.
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:28 AM   #4
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http://northyorkshire.police.uk/news...jammer-prison/

Of course you don't have to actually speak. A gesture or dance is also a form of speech.

What do you figure is the right level of punishment for someone who fits their vehicle with a laser jammer to stop the cops from detecting what speed he's going?

Okay, now what is the right level of punishment for someone who gives the finger to the mobile speed detection van as he drives past?

(UT note: the finger? One middle finger? What happened to the standard backwards two-finger flip? Has even North Yorks become Americanised?)

If you said "eight months in prison" you have listed the Brit punishment for such a thing. EIGHT MONTHS!!

But it's not about the finger, right? Because that part is speech.

(Giving the finger to speed detection devices and red light cameras should be considered hardy tradition in the states!)
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Old 04-24-2018, 10:13 AM   #5
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The middle finger is only the clickbait headline. I'm sure the gesture did him no favors, but he lied to the cops and attempted to destroy evidence, in addition to using the banned device in the first place. Another case of the coverup being worse than the crime.
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Old 04-24-2018, 12:30 PM   #6
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The middle finger is only the clickbait headline. I'm sure the gesture did him no favors, but he lied to the cops and attempted to destroy evidence, in addition to using the banned device in the first place. Another case of the coverup being worse than the crime.
This.


And yes, th middle finger is commonly used here. Even in Yorkshire :P

I think 2 fingers nowadays is more of a kid thing. Though you still see it sometimes from adults. I thing the middle finger is generally seen as a more serious insult than the two finger salute - but also context driven - it's like .... if you are insulting an individual you'd usually go with the middle finger - if you're insulting the police at a demonstration then it would be two fingers
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Old 04-24-2018, 03:08 PM   #7
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And yes, th middle finger is commonly used here. Even in Yorkshire :P
*sigh* What is left of traditional culture.
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Old 04-24-2018, 03:28 PM   #8
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*sigh* What is left of traditional culture.
Pies.


We'll always have pies. Proper pies. Proper British pies.
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"Nazi pug" comic -- makes his point, better than it's ever been made before.

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Old 04-25-2018, 07:19 AM   #10
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I can't follow their accents... he's saying "You just said the sentence 2 minutes ago, why should I consider your context if you won't consider mine," but what illegal/offensive sentence did the journalist say? Was it the "You said 'gas the Jews' 23 times" bit?
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Old 04-25-2018, 07:26 AM   #11
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Yes. The journalist spoke the exact same words, but as a quote. Nobody will think the journalist is anti-Semitic, because of the context of the phrase being a quote. Therefor context matters.
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Old 04-25-2018, 02:12 PM   #12
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Old 04-25-2018, 02:22 PM   #13
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Note: It's not Snoop Dogg lyrics, apparently there's also a Snap Dogg.
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Old 05-04-2018, 08:44 AM   #14
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I'd just post the image (SFW) but I never got the hang of posting images that I don't host and youtube videos.
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Old 05-04-2018, 11:42 AM   #15
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