Repubtards: Government small enough to fit in your pants - Page 2

ZenGum · 08-27-2012, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Well, that's the thing. It's inconvenient to start the clock at fertilization, 2 weeks, because stuff has been happening before that ..... The biological error was at negative 1 week?

I'm quite comfortable with "week negative one".

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The woman's body doesn't know if it will or will not get fertilized. It goes through the process every month on the assumption that it will. Necessary steps have to happen before fertilization, even if those steps are completely wasted most months. Is the woman "pregnant" before she's pregnant? Not by my definition, but you have to count those weeks as part of the larger process.

I'm just exploring this line of thinking...

Well, if we're looking at the larger process, as well as a thick uterine wall, she's going to need a good wide pelvis. So I figure she's been pregnant since she was about 12.

Stuff it. She needs to be a living adult female. Her whole life has been preparing for this. Pregnancy begins at birth. No, wait, conception. The mother's conception. But hang on, that began with the grandmother's conception. Which began with ...

Whoahhhh.... inconception.

Clodfobble · 08-27-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

I'm quite comfortable with "week negative one".

I'm not saying it's necessarily right, I'm just saying it's how they've always done it. Obstetricians are concerned with babies and the baby process; abortion politics only even entered into it in the last few decades. I think it's important not to have a situation where the doctor says you're 20 weeks but the law says you're 18 weeks.

Stormieweather · 08-27-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I'm not saying it's necessarily right, I'm just saying it's how they've always done it. Obstetricians are concerned with babies and the baby process; abortion politics only even entered into it in the last few decades. I think it's important not to have a situation where the doctor says you're 20 weeks but the law says you're 18 weeks.

I don't think the LAW should have any say in it whatsoever. The LAW needs to stay the eff out of my womb and my relationship with my doctor, tyvm.

And FOR THE RECORD, I have had an abortion. And I've NOT had an abortion and birthed and raised the (unexpected) child, alone. And I've had a baby within a marriage. And I, myself, am adopted. So I think I am pretty fucking qualified to speak to this matter.

The government needs to butt the fuck out. So do men who have never and will never experience pregnancy, childbirth and nursing. None of THEM are going to help buy the formula and diapers, find daycare so I can work, or feel the pain of MY loss after a termination.

morethanpretty · 08-27-2012, 10:01 AM

Ok clod, I concede to your superior knowledge of pregnancy. But I'm still annoyed that they are even legislating when the cut off date can be like this. A lot of women don't have regular periods and can easily miss the cut off, or there could be medical conditions of the fetus that aren't discovered until later in the pregnancy. It's still government sticking its nose into women's vaginas and I dont like it.

Cyber Wolf · 08-27-2012, 10:46 AM

So, what this Arizona law is saying is that, if it is POSSIBLE for a woman to be pregnant (whether or not there is actually a zygote and chemical indicators in blood/urine present), then she legally IS pregnant?

What's next? Jail sentences for women whose bodies self-abort or give birth to stillborn children, because their own bodies killed a Living Human Being With Full Rights and are Crime Scenes? Can you imaging the CSI unit trying to gather that evidence? CSI: Uterus.

Clodfobble · 08-27-2012, 11:54 AM

Yeah, the whole reason they want to count the weeks is because they're setting a cutoff date for when it is too late to have an abortion. Like I said, I do disagree with their motives.

Sheldonrs · 08-27-2012, 12:49 PM

If you don't have a vagina, shut the fuck up. And that includes Gov. Brewer.
If that bitch wants life to begin 2 weeks before conception, maybe we should all start jerking off into baggies and ship them to her so she doesn't have us arrested for mass murder, just abandonment.

henry quirk · 08-27-2012, 01:27 PM

Agreed!

If Miss X is knocked up and wants to abort: abort away!

Not my concern (or, responsibility).

Spexxvet · 08-28-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk

Agreed!

If Miss X is knocked up and wants to abort: abort away!

Not my concern (or, responsibility).

Uh oh. I agree with Henry.

richlevy · 08-27-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

If you don't have a vagina, shut the fuck up. And that includes Gov. Brewer.
If that bitch wants life to begin 2 weeks before conception, maybe we should all start jerking off into baggies and ship them to her so she doesn't have us arrested for mass murder, just abandonment.

Speak for yourself. That woman is so ugly, I don't want my sperm anywhere near her.

Urbane Guerrilla · 08-28-2012, 04:43 AM

For the record, I quite agree with Stormy.

I'll take the hit; I knew it would excite anger -- and a few unfounded assumptions while the haters went into their rages.

infinite monkey · 08-28-2012, 08:00 AM

You knew it would excite a few unfounded assumptions? So, you must have known what those assumptions would be, otherwise what did you think would be excited? Therefore, the assumptions weren't unfounded; they were laid out there for us dummies to pluck right up. Right?

Alternatively, the "that's what I meant to happen" assertion is coming straight out of your ass.

infinite monkey · 08-28-2012, 08:13 AM

More from the repubtard files...THIS JUST IN!

Rush Limbaugh: Hurricane Center is ‘Obama’

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Rush Limbaugh, while repeatedly insisting he is “not alleging a conspiracy,” suggested Monday that the National Hurricane Center’s forecast models for Tropical Storm Isaac were altered to help President Barack Obama and “cast a pall” over the Republican National Convention.

“I’m not alleging conspiracies here. The Hurricane Center is the regime; the Hurricane Center is the Commerce Department,” Limbaugh said on his talk show. “It’s the government. It’s Obama.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80212.html

You can't NOT laugh!

infinite monkey · 08-28-2012, 08:21 AM

Rush probably just wanted to excite anger and a few unfounded assumptions.

henry quirk · 08-28-2012, 09:05 AM

Hell just got a little colder...

08-27-2012, 10:01 AM	#4
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	Ok clod, I concede to your superior knowledge of pregnancy. But I'm still annoyed that they are even legislating when the cut off date can be like this. A lot of women don't have regular periods and can easily miss the cut off, or there could be medical conditions of the fetus that aren't discovered until later in the pregnancy. It's still government sticking its nose into women's vaginas and I dont like it. __________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

08-27-2012, 10:46 AM	#5
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	So, what this Arizona law is saying is that, if it is POSSIBLE for a woman to be pregnant (whether or not there is actually a zygote and chemical indicators in blood/urine present), then she legally IS pregnant? What's next? Jail sentences for women whose bodies self-abort or give birth to stillborn children, because their own bodies killed a Living Human Being With Full Rights and are Crime Scenes? Can you imaging the CSI unit trying to gather that evidence? CSI: Uterus. __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

08-27-2012, 11:54 AM	#6
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Yeah, the whole reason they want to count the weeks is because they're setting a cutoff date for when it is too late to have an abortion. Like I said, I do disagree with their motives. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

08-27-2012, 12:49 PM	#7
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	If you don't have a vagina, shut the fuck up. And that includes Gov. Brewer. If that bitch wants life to begin 2 weeks before conception, maybe we should all start jerking off into baggies and ship them to her so she doesn't have us arrested for mass murder, just abandonment. __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

08-27-2012, 01:27 PM	#8
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"The government needs to butt the fuck out." Agreed! If Miss X is knocked up and wants to abort: abort away! Not my concern (or, responsibility). __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

08-28-2012, 04:43 AM	#11
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	For the record, I quite agree with Stormy. I'll take the hit; I knew it would excite anger -- and a few unfounded assumptions while the haters went into their rages. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

08-28-2012, 08:00 AM	#12
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	You knew it would excite a few unfounded assumptions? So, you must have known what those assumptions would be, otherwise what did you think would be excited? Therefore, the assumptions weren't unfounded; they were laid out there for us dummies to pluck right up. Right? Alternatively, the "that's what I meant to happen" assertion is coming straight out of your ass.

08-28-2012, 08:21 AM	#14
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Rush probably just wanted to excite anger and a few unfounded assumptions.

08-28-2012, 09:05 AM	#15
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"Uh oh. I agree with Henry." Hell just got a little colder... __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

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