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Old 07-05-2012, 05:49 PM   #1
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you mean like this one?
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:32 PM   #2
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Yeah....just like that one.


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Old 07-06-2012, 09:02 AM   #3
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There's always a spoil-sport in the crowd. This one is named Harvey Newman at Cal Tech...

Discovery News
Fri Jul 6, 2012 07:55 AM ET

What If the New Particle Isn't the Higgs Boson?
There are subtle indications that the particle may not, in fact, be the Higgs.

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Physicists at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) say they've discovered
a new "Higgs-like" particle: a bundle of energy that has most of the trappings
of the long-sought Higgs boson. They're not naming the newcomer outright,
because there are subtle indications that the particle may not, in fact,
be the plain old Higgs itself, but rather a close doppelganger.<snip>

The Standard Model is incomplete, Newman said, because it doesn't account
for the particles that make up 84 percent of the matter in the universe:
the invisible substance known as dark matter. It also fails to incorporate gravity.<snip>
The leading theory that places the Standard Model within a more powerful,
all-encompassing framework is called supersymmetry, or SUSY.<snip>

When generated in a particle collider like the LHC, each Higgs-like boson
would be expected to decay into a unique set of lighter particles.
It appears that the newfound particle at the LHC decayed in a way
that the run-of-the-mill Standard Model Higgs would not have, the physicists said
— although more data is needed before they'll know for certain what kind of Higgs they've got.
But if the particle is, in fact, a more exotic Higgs, then it could be a SUSY Higgs,
or at least a non-Standard Model Higgs. And this would be the first
discovery of physics beyond the Standard Model.
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Old 01-15-2015, 12:25 AM   #4
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PBS: Nova 1/13/15 THE BIG BANG MACHINE

Many years ago when I was much younger than I am now,
I saw on tv what I believed was the best science program ever made.
It was an early (1975 ?) NOVA program about the young scientist,
his equipment, and his recordings of when he first discovered
the pulsating signal of a black hole.

Tonight, I watched the second best NOVA program about the discovery of the Higgs boson.
For me, this 1-hour tv program was a true celebration of science.
I know that word "celebration" is used a lot, and that is why
I hope everyone will take the time to watch this one.
It is what a career in science is all about.

This NOVA program is available on the pbs.org/wgbh/nova website and this is the link:
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Old 01-15-2015, 03:36 PM   #5
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NOVA never disappoints. Many of the subjects don't affect our daily struggle in a way we're aware of, and they don't sell many newspapers, so they only get press in scientific or trade journals. Very few would read all the publications required to get the whole picture. Every subject is presented in a clear, interesting manner.
I swear if the voice of Peter Thomas(NOVA's narrator), told me I was a chicken, I'd try to lay an egg.

As for the Higgs boson show, I think your celebration of science description is appropriate. It's a story of science triumphs over skeptics, politics, and numerous scientific challenges, to catch a glimpse of what had been theoretical for 50 years. Perfect story line with good guys, bad guys, and triumph.

However, there is a considerable phalanx of people saying so what? Do I still have to go to work tomorrow? Will Higgs boson fix my car, heal my body, feed the world? Wouldn't that $13.25 Billion and effort of hundreds, be better spent improving the lives of third world people? Does science trump humanity?

I don't have an answer.
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:12 PM   #6
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NOVA never disappoints.
We all work to only service the few who advance mankind. According to popular myth, quantum mechanics has done nothing useful for any of us. Total nonsense. That gigibyte disk drive is due to a breakthrough in quantum physics. Same applies other useless technologies includnig Shannon's Communication Theory, laser, computer chess games or beating Jepordy champions, glass fibers, LED, satellite, uProcessor, PCM, liquid crystals, lithium battery, etc. In each case it obviously had no purpose; was only a cute toy.

We knew the future of everyone not yet born then was the transistor. Today, that same future is in Quantum physics. Almost nothing discovered in fundamental research has a purpose - until that fundamental research moves to application research. Those above examples are perfect examples of money wasted (according to spread sheet analysis). So much later each became essential to everyone's daily life.

We could not possibly know what a Higg Bosum will make possible. That is the nature of fundamental research - that defines the future of everyone's lives.

The show ends in a world wide conference where the tens of thousands, essential to our future, are the same people we all work to support. So that mankind can advance.

Alongside Nova was another 'must see' show. Frontline discussed what everyone here should know about Putin.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:08 AM   #7
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The clue there is in the description 'Higgs-like'. I've heard a number of scientists talking about this, including some of those working at the LHC and they're not saying this is Higgs Bosun. They're saying it is a bosun, and is apparently Higgs-like in that it behaves in ways they would expect such to behave. But that it might be another kind of particle in which case that would be just as interesting.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:20 PM   #8
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THE INSIDER: Governmentium — the heaviest known element
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"The CSIR in collaboration with the Large Hadron Collider
has discovered the heaviest element yet known to science.
The new element is Governmentium (Gv).

It has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons and
198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.
These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons,
which are surrounded by vast quantities of lefton-like particles called peons.
Since Governmentium has no electrons or protons, it is inert.
However, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact.
A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that normally takes
less than a second to require four days to four years to complete.

Governmentium has a normal half-life of two to six years.
It does not decay but instead undergoes a reorganisation in which
a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.
In fact, Governmentium’s mass will actually increase over time,
since each reorganisation will cause more morons to become neutrons,
forming isodopes.
This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to believe
Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration.

This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical morass.
When catalysed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium,
an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium
since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons.
All of the money is consumed in the exchange, and no other by-products are produced."
This discovery has been scientifically confirmed in Switzerland...

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9/10/12

CERN Wants Even Bigger Large Hadron Collider


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The Large Hadron Collider just isn't large enough for CERN.

The Geneva-based team that found the Higgs boson has set its sights
on bigger and better things—emphasis on the bigger—and is now proposing
replacing the current collider, which runs through 17 miles of tunnel,
with a new one that's a full 50 miles long, the Daily Mail reports.

This new collider would study a host of new physics mysteries,
including how gravity works on a particle level.
"We have a wild new frontier of physics to explore," one physics professor
involved in the decision said. "We can do some of that work by upgrading the LHC,
but in the end it will need a more powerful machine."

The bad news: the new collider likely wouldn't be finished until 2025.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:50 AM   #9
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If it takes 20 years to build, you have to start building it at least 20 years before you run out of things to do with the current one.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:37 PM   #10
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If a Higgs bosom exists, does that mean Higgs is a she?
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:27 PM   #11
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You're confusing it with a Higgs bison
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:11 PM   #12
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If it takes 20 years to build, you have to start building it at least 20 years before you run out of things to do with the current one.
make a note:

Once we invent the time machine, go back in time to 1992, and tell ourselves to start NOW! then it should be ready by now.

what? It worked for Bill and Ted!
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:36 PM   #13
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:06 PM   #14
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Bosoms are what makes top quarks top heavy. When scientists discuss bosoms, they also discuss spin. Does that mean Higg's is a blond?
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