You Dirty Sluts - Page 2

DanaC · 03-06-2012, 07:35 AM

You're the slut we all wish we were :p

classicman · 03-06-2012, 01:35 PM

monster · 03-06-2012, 01:44 PM

Is it more offensive to call someone a slut than a bitch? Or are both equally mysogynistic when used by a male in a discusiion/argument/debate scenario?

glatt · 03-06-2012, 01:46 PM

slut is much worse than bitch, imho

My take is that "slut" is a judgement about the value of the person, while "bitch" just means you don't like them at that moment.

monster · 03-06-2012, 01:47 PM

because of the sexual aspect?

Lamplighter · 03-06-2012, 01:50 PM

I have the idea of the slut harms herself, a bitch harms others.

glatt · 03-06-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by monster

because of the sexual aspect?

What other aspect is there?

But it says more about the person using the word than the person it's aimed at. Maybe a few decades ago it was the other way around.

monster · 03-06-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

What other aspect is there?

But it says more about the person using the word than the person it's aimed at. Maybe a few decades ago it was the other way around.

Is that what makes the difference -that one is sexual and one isn't, or is it the way in which each is used or is it just higher on the sliding scale of all bad words that ranges from you dastardly devil thru you motherfelching cunt to.....wherever?

It wasn't a challenge, merely a question, sorry if it came off differently

I don't find them particularly different in this context of use. You and Ibram have both touched on what I feel about it really -it says more about the person who resorts to the name-calling, and it's about damn time women just didn't let "slut" hurt them any more than "bitch". words like this just need to be reclaimed until there are no more left. But I wouldn't be surprised to find I'm in the minority about that. I think all this "bad words" thing is ridiculous. And I don't feel any need to take a stand against this Lindburgh chap because he's already been outclassed and shown up by his "victim". Good for her.

glatt · 03-06-2012, 02:44 PM

I think they are very different.

Bitch is always a woman or an insult to a man by calling him a woman. You can be a bitch one day, and then not be a bitch the next. It's about attitude. Or maybe you are always a bitch. But then that's just the way you are. (Not you, Monster.)

Slut is someone who is promiscuous. But in a bad way. And using that word is making a judgement on the worth of the person forever. They are unclean. In the gutter. The lowest.

monster · 03-06-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I think they are very different.

Bitch is always a woman or an insult to a man by calling him a woman. You can be a bitch one day, and then not be a bitch the next. It's about attitude. Or maybe you are always a bitch. But then that's just the way you are. (Not you, Monster.)

Slut is someone who is promiscuous. But in a bad way. And using that word is making a judgement on the worth of the person forever. They are unclean. In the gutter. The lowest.

There's probably an element of cultural difference here too. A slut can just be a slovenly woman with no reference to sexuality, so it just doesn't have the strong slur to it for me. I often refer to myself as a slut in the messy/poor houseworking sense. I just checked the Oxford and the slovernly aspect gets far more coverage than the sexual one and is the first meaning given. Also Brits are generally less hung up about sex and booze (and more hung up about guns and violence)

I also noticed "slut wool" being given as a term for "dust bunnies"

To me, being a dick and being a bitch are two completely different behaviours that have very little to do with gender. And they're both just words, neither is really worse than the other.

Ibby · 03-06-2012, 02:15 PM

Bitch means "you are a woman, who is acting negatively", or "you are acting negatively and I want to paint you with a feminine epithet for increased effect". in both cases, it's implied that the being a woman part of the term is meant to increase the negativity of the term.

Slut, however, means "you are immoral, and have too much sex", and is almost always applied negatively only to women. it implies trashiness and a lack of personal worth or value. But it also means "sex is bad"... and that's already becoming a position wildly out of touch with anyone who isn't a Limbaugh fan or a Westboro Baptist or whatever. Slut shaming is becoming more and more rejected by society. Slutwalks are an increasingly common sort of protest march.

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But it says more about the person using the word than the person it's aimed at. Maybe a few decades ago it was the other way around.

Pico and ME · 03-06-2012, 02:48 PM

He's losing advertisers...I think the count is up to 30.

classicman · 03-06-2012, 02:57 PM

bitch=female
dick=male

Nirvana · 03-06-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

bitch=female
double fucking dick=male

FTFY

Sheldonrs · 03-06-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

bitch=female
dick=male

Whew! I've been doing it right!

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monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	because of the sexual aspect? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	slut is much worse than bitch, imho My take is that "slut" is a judgement about the value of the person, while "bitch" just means you don't like them at that moment.

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Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	I have the idea of the slut harms herself, a bitch harms others.

03-06-2012, 02:44 PM	#9
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I think they are very different. Bitch is always a woman or an insult to a man by calling him a woman. You can be a bitch one day, and then not be a bitch the next. It's about attitude. Or maybe you are always a bitch. But then that's just the way you are. (Not you, Monster.) Slut is someone who is promiscuous. But in a bad way. And using that word is making a judgement on the worth of the person forever. They are unclean. In the gutter. The lowest.

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