I almost to the point.... - Page 2

Stormieweather · 02-22-2012, 01:45 PM

And those 40 million families living in poverty, earning less than $17,000 per year for a family of 3, can somehow miraculously afford $13000 per year to educate that child?

This works out real well for the people who already pay for private schooling and actually have the financial position to own a home. They continue to pay the same tuition, but they no longer have to pay the educational taxes.

Pretty much screws those 40 million in poverty though. Oh well, who cares about them anyway? Let 'em get a real job and stop having kids and quit spending food stamps on big screen tv's. Yeah.

Ah but, beyond the educational argument, there's the infrastructure being privatized...roads, hospitals, airports, prisons, water/sewer systems, police being privatized, removal of environmental protections (fuck the future generations, profits > all!), lack of agencies to prevent abuses of all types...abuse of elders, abuse of children, abuse of spouses, abuse of employees, abuse of power, etc. Abuse would just run rampant, unchecked.

Who exactly decides how much government is too much and how much is too little? Oh wait...those in POWER decide. If it benefits them, it's all good. If it screws the weak and vulnerable citizens, who fucking cares really?

Until they rise up like Cairo and Syria and Bahrain. Then maybe someone might care.

Or not.

classicman · 02-22-2012, 01:58 PM

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This works out real well for the people who already pay for private schooling and actually have the financial position to own a home. They continue to pay the same tuition, but they no longer have to pay the educational taxes.

I don't think so. Everyone pays school taxes if they own property regardless if your child attends K-12 or not.

Stormieweather · 02-22-2012, 02:08 PM

No, I mean IF there is no more public schooling. IF everyone pays for school, then there is no reason for educational taxes.

Spexxvet · 02-22-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

This religion is only a speck harder to believe than the religion of Spexxism, where you aren't responsible for anything, the government that controls everything is.

I AM YOUR DEITY!

Kneel Before me!

All your responsibilities are belong to me!

classicman · 02-22-2012, 02:30 PM

@ Stormie Oh, gotcha. Yeh, thats not happening anytime soon.

Spexxvet · 02-22-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Oh, gotcha. Yeh, thats not happening anytime soon.

Still no sense of humor. Here we go again.

JBKlyde · 02-22-2012, 03:06 PM

Head like a HO black as my Soul I'd rather die than give you control..

classicman · 02-22-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Still no sense of humor. Here we go again.

that was a response to Stormie, not you.

Undertoad · 02-22-2012, 03:44 PM

This is how the thread peters out??

Well, I enjoyed this, my lensmeister, perhaps we can do it again sometime?

Sundae · 02-22-2012, 03:48 PM

Not with a bang, but a Stormie...

Spexxvet · 02-22-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

that was a response to Stormie, not you.

Thank you for adding the "@stormie". I misunderstood.

Spexxvet · 02-22-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

This is how the thread peters out??

I think it ended with misrepresentation:

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

This religion is only a speck harder to believe than the religion of Spexxism, where you aren't responsible for anything, the government that controls everything is.

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

Head like a HO black as my Soul I'd rather die than give you control..

Dude, God and Jesus already control you.

JBKlyde · 02-22-2012, 04:29 PM

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where you aren't responsible for anything, the government that controls everything is.

That makes since!!

Griff · 02-22-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

"Catholic school" is "better education"? I don't think so, especially when they teach you that you aren't responsible for anything, the father figure in the sky that controls everything is.

I have two atheistic children in Catholic school. They are receiving a far superior education than their public school counterparts for about $6k each. I'll stand with UT on this. I went to a bad public school. Someone else will have to defend them.

JBKlyde · 02-22-2012, 06:06 PM

I don't think it's right to "suck off" the system and that's what a lot of people do. With larger government comes the people who "work" the system. The only way for Big Systems to work' is to work' the system and most people don't. Just acknowledge that Jesus loves the church in Philly and bow at the feet of the people who run the church and this whole thing will make since.

02-22-2012, 01:45 PM	#16
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	And those 40 million families living in poverty, earning less than $17,000 per year for a family of 3, can somehow miraculously afford $13000 per year to educate that child? This works out real well for the people who already pay for private schooling and actually have the financial position to own a home. They continue to pay the same tuition, but they no longer have to pay the educational taxes. Pretty much screws those 40 million in poverty though. Oh well, who cares about them anyway? Let 'em get a real job and stop having kids and quit spending food stamps on big screen tv's. Yeah. Ah but, beyond the educational argument, there's the infrastructure being privatized...roads, hospitals, airports, prisons, water/sewer systems, police being privatized, removal of environmental protections (fuck the future generations, profits > all!), lack of agencies to prevent abuses of all types...abuse of elders, abuse of children, abuse of spouses, abuse of employees, abuse of power, etc. Abuse would just run rampant, unchecked. Who exactly decides how much government is too much and how much is too little? Oh wait...those in POWER decide. If it benefits them, it's all good. If it screws the weak and vulnerable citizens, who fucking cares really? Until they rise up like Cairo and Syria and Bahrain. Then maybe someone might care. Or not. __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

02-22-2012, 02:08 PM	#18
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	No, I mean IF there is no more public schooling. IF everyone pays for school, then there is no reason for educational taxes. __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

02-22-2012, 02:30 PM	#20
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	@ Stormie Oh, gotcha. Yeh, thats not happening anytime soon. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt Last edited by classicman; 02-22-2012 at 03:48 PM. Reason: Clarity for Spexxie

02-22-2012, 03:06 PM	#22
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	Head like a HO black as my Soul I'd rather die than give you control..

02-22-2012, 03:44 PM	#24
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This is how the thread peters out?? Well, I enjoyed this, my lensmeister, perhaps we can do it again sometime?

02-22-2012, 03:48 PM	#25
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Not with a bang, but a Stormie...

02-22-2012, 06:06 PM	#30
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	I don't think it's right to "suck off" the system and that's what a lot of people do. With larger government comes the people who "work" the system. The only way for Big Systems to work' is to work' the system and most people don't. Just acknowledge that Jesus loves the church in Philly and bow at the feet of the people who run the church and this whole thing will make since.

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