Terrorism, and the politics of of War - Page 2

DanaC · 02-01-2012, 05:06 PM

It isn't, JB, really it isn't.

So...are you sayiing we should annihilate them all like cockroaches...or are you saying our leaders should start engaging in more diplomatic solutions?

Ibby · 02-01-2012, 05:19 PM

As someone who has "gone off" my meds and found myself the better for it in the past, I trust JB to at least have responsibility for his psychological and medical health. Which is why, again, I say - MAKE THE EFFORT to communicate effectively and coherently, because I firmly believe you're capable, when you don't "write off most of the nonsense [you] post as research".

And yes, part of the reason I took this thread as an opportunity to say this is because the argument that we should "totally annihilate" anybody - i can only assume the annihilation wouldn't only extend to terrorists or enemy combatants, because that's already the policy - is reprehensible enough to ignore entirely.

JBKlyde · 02-01-2012, 05:39 PM

every time I've ever gone off my meds either to go on new ones or to "see if I really had a problem" I've ended up either in jail or the hospital. so YES I have learned my lesson...

JBKlyde · 02-01-2012, 05:48 PM

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So...are you sayiing we should annihilate them all like cockroaches...or are you saying our leaders should start engaging in more diplomatic solutions?

I'm saying the the term "terrorist" is very harsh. It would appear that I've locked my self into this paradox by calling myself a terrorist at one point but the us government is just so powerful that anyone who dare's try rival it gets stuck in a situation that creates extreme insecurity and perhaps the "re-leave pressure" button needs to be pushed. Then of coarse there is thing called "bur-don of proof". SO I'm not going to confess to some hap hazard lunaticacal mishap if I'm not guaranteed a fair trial. The Guy I was going after "Saddam" got a trial I think it's only fair that I got one too.

Ibby · 02-01-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

I'm saying the the term "terrorist" is very harsh. It would appear that I've locked my self into this paradox by calling myself a terrorist at one point but the us government is just so powerful that anyone who dare's try rival it gets stuck in a situation that creates extreme insecurity and perhaps the "re-leave pressure" button needs to be pushed. Then of coarse there is thing called "bur-don of proof". SO I'm not going to confess to some hap hazard lunaticacal mishap if I'm not guaranteed a fair trial. The Guy I was going after "Saddam" got a trial I think it's only fair that I got one too.

except that is literally NOT at ANY point what you were saying! you said NOTHING about your feelings on the term terrorist, or how you personally call(ed?) yourself one, before. What is the "re-leave pressure" button? what is your problem with "bur-don of proof"? Why do you think that any trial you're entitled to would be less fair than Saddam's? and last of all, what does ANY of that have to do with cockroaches, and mass extermination, and god?

Spexxvet · 02-01-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

How do you make peace with an enemy that you don't negotiate with??
I think at one point you have to stop and consider that the "experts" of war must have this figured out. But at another point you have to figure that if we the people don't put in our 2 since then, why do we even bother to be free. SO here's my 2 since. "Totally Annihilate" them. The way I see it God sees us all like cocha roaches and he can stomp us all out any time he wants. The Irony behind this is that we can destroy tank from 20 miles high with pin point accuracy but we can't kill the gd cocha roaches.. \

qcc??

God doesn't have to have enemies. He can just make friends out of his enemies. Jesus would turn the other cheek and love his enemies.

I would use sarcasm. Sarcasm and hyperbole.

Clodfobble · 02-01-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

How would you know? I take my meds exactly how my doctor tells me to..

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

every time I've ever gone off my meds either to go on new ones or to "see if I really had a problem" I've ended up either in jail or the hospital. so YES I have learned my lesson...

Then I apologize. You have specifically said in the past that you don't take them and don't want to. I am glad to hear it is no longer the case.

JBKlyde · 02-01-2012, 06:34 PM

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except that is literally NOT at ANY point what you were saying! you said NOTHING about your feelings on the term terrorist, or how you personally call(ed?) yourself one, before. What is the "re-leave pressure" button? what is your problem with "bur-don of proof"? Why do you think that any trial you're entitled to would be less fair than Saddam's? and last of all, what does ANY of that have to do with cockroaches, and mass extermination, and god?

I think you have to understand the nature of the paradox.. It's a mental nightmare that "used to be" an incredible dream.. and now I'm awake. So when I post I'm not directly speaking to anyone but to the dream. Now that I'm awake I'm scared shit-less that I'll die and "go to hell". It's like one continuios movie only no one really cares.

classicman · 02-01-2012, 06:36 PM

Don't feed it ... just don't.

Spexxvet · 02-01-2012, 06:40 PM

dream dream dream dreamity dream dream dream dream wake
dream dream dream wake shit dream dream
dream god wake jesus shit dream dream scream dream

classicman · 02-01-2012, 06:43 PM

Aliantha · 02-01-2012, 06:43 PM

You know JB, if it's you've found God and you're afraid of not being accepted into heaven because of things you did when your illness was controlling you, maybe you need to talk to your minister? It's my understanding that God will forgive your sins and transgressions as long as you repent, which seems to me to be what you've done.

You maybe just need to forgive yourself now and recognise that the things you've done were done by a different person. not the person you are now.

Ibby · 02-01-2012, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

I think you have to understand the nature of the paradox.. It's a mental nightmare that "used to be" an incredible dream.. and now I'm awake. So when I post I'm not directly speaking to anyone but to the dream. Now that I'm awake I'm scared shit-less that I'll die and "go to hell". It's like one continuios movie only no one really cares.

then how is this Politics? Again, you didn't outline the paradox, didn't discuss it, didn't make any comprehensible points. Are you trying to be clear and to make sense, and failing? or are you just shouting into the ether? Do you WANT to be understood clearly? if not, why post it on a discussion, community-based forum?

JBKlyde · 02-01-2012, 07:43 PM

well you know you have green day over here saying when masturbation has lost it's fun your f-in lazy, you have alanis morset saying it's a death row pardon 2 minintues 2 late and you have rage aginst the machine saying killing in the name of.. well you know masturbation never looses it's fun... so it's kind of a green take on politics... just trying to shake things up a bit....

Ibby · 02-01-2012, 07:59 PM

What?

02-01-2012, 05:19 PM	#17
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	As someone who has "gone off" my meds and found myself the better for it in the past, I trust JB to at least have responsibility for his psychological and medical health. Which is why, again, I say - MAKE THE EFFORT to communicate effectively and coherently, because I firmly believe you're capable, when you don't "write off most of the nonsense [you] post as research". And yes, part of the reason I took this thread as an opportunity to say this is because the argument that we should "totally annihilate" anybody - i can only assume the annihilation wouldn't only extend to terrorists or enemy combatants, because that's already the policy - is reprehensible enough to ignore entirely. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

02-01-2012, 06:36 PM	#24
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Don't feed it ... just don't. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-01-2012, 06:40 PM	#25
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	dream dream dream dreamity dream dream dream dream wake dream dream dream wake shit dream dream dream god wake jesus shit dream dream scream dream __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

02-01-2012, 06:43 PM	#26
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	__________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-01-2012, 06:43 PM	#27
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	You know JB, if it's you've found God and you're afraid of not being accepted into heaven because of things you did when your illness was controlling you, maybe you need to talk to your minister? It's my understanding that God will forgive your sins and transgressions as long as you repent, which seems to me to be what you've done. You maybe just need to forgive yourself now and recognise that the things you've done were done by a different person. not the person you are now. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-01-2012, 05:39 PM	#18
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	every time I've ever gone off my meds either to go on new ones or to "see if I really had a problem" I've ended up either in jail or the hospital. so YES I have learned my lesson...

02-01-2012, 07:43 PM	#29
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	well you know you have green day over here saying when masturbation has lost it's fun your f-in lazy, you have alanis morset saying it's a death row pardon 2 minintues 2 late and you have rage aginst the machine saying killing in the name of.. well you know masturbation never looses it's fun... so it's kind of a green take on politics... just trying to shake things up a bit....

02-01-2012, 07:59 PM	#30
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	What? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

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