Why, oh why? - Page 2

Shawnee123 · 12-15-2010, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

Why oh Why oh Why-O
Am I still in Ohio???

What she said.

glatt: you, sir, are a genius. I bet you're absolutely correct.

@ foot: I don't know...possession?

footfootfoot · 12-15-2010, 12:17 PM

Shawnee123 · 12-17-2010, 12:20 PM

Where oh where is the stupid drawer? I finally found the damn pliers but I can't find the room the stuck drawer was in. They didn't freaking move it. And where's the white key?

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

(I like to play escape games on my lunch hour.)

footfootfoot · 12-17-2010, 01:53 PM

This is the Why oh why thread, not the Where oh where thread.

Shawnee123 · 12-17-2010, 02:27 PM

What? Oh, what?

casimendocina · 12-17-2010, 03:18 PM

Lamplighter · 12-17-2010, 04:51 PM

OK, in keeping with the title of the thread...

Why, oh why do I need to get scissors or a knife to open a bag of coffee ?

There's a special hell (very intense) for those who design packaging

Undertoad · 12-17-2010, 05:06 PM

Coffee is a unique product, with unique packaging needs. After the beans are roasted, they need to be vacuum packed right away for freshness, but they also "outgas" for a while. So they need a flexible vacuum package with a completely airtight seal, and a little valve that lets air out, but not in.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-18-2010, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

....but they also "outgas" for a while.

Coffee beans eat Brussels sprouts?

DanaC · 12-18-2010, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Coffee is a unique product, with unique packaging needs. After the beans are roasted, they need to be vacuum packed right away for freshness, but they also "outgas" for a while. So they need a flexible vacuum package with a completely airtight seal, and a little valve that lets air out, but not in.

I did not know that! I've always wondered why there was so much room in a coffee bag.

limey · 12-18-2010, 06:11 AM

Nice UT but I don't buy it (the theory, not the coffee). Some coffee here is is bags like you describe, but other brands are vacuum sealed in(to) solid block shapes, and once you break the seal by cutting (scissors, lamp, a kitchen can never have too many pairs of scissors) the package becomes floppy. (fnar fnar, I said the package becomes floppy!)

casimendocina · 12-19-2010, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by limey

Nice UT but I don't buy it (the theory, not the coffee). Some coffee here is is bags like you describe, but other brands are vacuum sealed in(to) solid block shapes, and once you break the seal by cutting (scissors, lamp, a kitchen can never have too many pairs of scissors) the package becomes floppy. (fnar fnar, I said the package becomes floppy!)

I like hearing the hiss of air that comes out of the brick shaped ones when you open them thereby breaking the vacuum packed seal. (Alright, alright...small things amuse small minds).

xoxoxoBruce · 12-19-2010, 01:12 PM

Not to be picky, but that's air going in, when you break the vacuum seal.

Undertoad · 12-18-2010, 09:36 AM

It depends on how good you want your coffee to be. The stuff in bricks is pre-ground of beans that have sat around and outgassed before packaging. Coffee snobs such as myself would consider that stale, and it results in a harsher cup.

Also, we got used to "bad" ways of packaging coffee before all this was worked out. S'only in the last 20 years that they worked out a way to vacuum-pack AND have the little one-way valve AND have it all be cheap enough to work.

limey · 12-18-2010, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

It depends on how good you want your coffee to be. The stuff in bricks is pre-ground of beans that have sat around and outgassed before packaging. Coffee snobs such as myself would consider that stale, and it results in a harsher cup.

Also, we got used to "bad" ways of packaging coffee before all this was worked out. S'only in the last 20 years that they worked out a way to vacuum-pack AND have the little one-way valve AND have it all be cheap enough to work.

OK I'll buy that. Over here the valve thingie is sold as a way to sniff the lovely coffee smell.

12-15-2010, 12:17 PM	#2
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12-17-2010, 12:20 PM	#3
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Where oh where is the stupid drawer? I finally found the damn pliers but I can't find the room the stuck drawer was in. They didn't freaking move it. And where's the white key? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (I like to play escape games on my lunch hour.) __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-17-2010, 01:53 PM	#4
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	This is the Why oh why thread, not the Where oh where thread. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-17-2010, 02:27 PM	#5
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	What? Oh, what? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-18-2010, 06:11 AM	#11
limey Encroaching on your decrees Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An island within the south-west coast of Scotland Posts: 7,016	Nice UT but I don't buy it (the theory, not the coffee). Some coffee here is is bags like you describe, but other brands are vacuum sealed in(to) solid block shapes, and once you break the seal by cutting (scissors, lamp, a kitchen can never have too many pairs of scissors) the package becomes floppy. (fnar fnar, I said the package becomes floppy!) __________________ Living it up on the edge ... of civilisation, within the southwest coast of

12-17-2010, 03:18 PM	#6
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12-17-2010, 04:51 PM	#7
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	OK, in keeping with the title of the thread... Why, oh why do I need to get scissors or a knife to open a bag of coffee ? There's a special hell (very intense) for those who design packaging

12-17-2010, 05:06 PM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Coffee is a unique product, with unique packaging needs. After the beans are roasted, they need to be vacuum packed right away for freshness, but they also "outgas" for a while. So they need a flexible vacuum package with a completely airtight seal, and a little valve that lets air out, but not in.

12-19-2010, 01:12 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Not to be picky, but that's air going in, when you break the vacuum seal. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-18-2010, 09:36 AM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	It depends on how good you want your coffee to be. The stuff in bricks is pre-ground of beans that have sat around and outgassed before packaging. Coffee snobs such as myself would consider that stale, and it results in a harsher cup. Also, we got used to "bad" ways of packaging coffee before all this was worked out. S'only in the last 20 years that they worked out a way to vacuum-pack AND have the little one-way valve AND have it all be cheap enough to work.

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