Is Boobies a 4 Letter Word?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by monster

Who says they're not? How much of the money from these bands goes to the cause? An how much does using the word "boobies" instead of breasts help? If it sells bands to people who wouldn't otherwise give money, chances are it's to the people who will only buy them if they're cheap and therefore very little of those $$ end up doing any good beyond keeping the Chinese employed.

The Keep A Breast Foundation’s sold over 2 million @ $4 a pop. I doubt very much of that is going to China. As for your assertion the majority of the money is not going to research, I'd be glad to entertain your proof.

Where do we get off telling breast cancer survivors/sufferers/their relatives how they should feel about campaigns to help them?

"We" are doing no such thing. I questioned why these two teachers would not support a campaign to raise the awareness/support of the younger crowd, who are at the age they still think they're immortal, to the fact that this disease does indeed strike people under 40... a lot of them.

Be quiet, the grown-ups are talking and we know what's best for you?

To the contrary, it's shut up and let the youth talk, talk to each other in their own vernacular, because all that adult talking hasn't gotten through to them.

Would we say the same to child molestation victims if they found a fuck five-year-old-fingerers or banish baby-buggerers band offensive?

Strawman.

Some women -especially those who have had mastectomies- feel that their suffering is being trivialized and the publicity is not about raising awareness of breast cancer at all, it's about using cancer as an excuse to do something that would otherwise be deemed socially inappropriate.

There are many women who feel talking about breasts in socially inappropriate, so I'm not surprised.

Using their very personal and very traumatizing cancer experience as a stepping stone for political/personal publicity aims and general money making (not fundraising).

I'm sure this happens, especially with politicians and celebrities, but the number of people who have even the remotest possibility of personal gain is minuscule compared to the number trying to help.

Some women feel very incomplete after mastectomies. But they cope by looking at it in scientific terms: "it's just a diseased body part I didn't need any more...a breast..." Calling them boobies in this context and saying how important they are to everybody -especially men -and let's face it, that's who's likely to sit up and take notice of the word boobies- re-sexualizes them and makes these women feel less whole and less valued again. Not all women, necessarily, but some.

For those that have suffered this cancer, it's a very traumatic personal experience, and they cope in their own way, be it scientific terms or whatever they have to do. But this is not about them, or their trauma, this is about the disease, and trying to make youth aware of it's potential to knock on their door.

The "save the boobles" campaign suggests men sitting around feeling smug because they can think about and say boobies without their wife complaining.

No, men say tits.

Show some fucking sensitivity. if they find it offensive, why isn't that OK? They have at least had the disease -unlike all those whiners who find a mosque in NYC offensive despite the fact they live in bumfuck Tejas and never knew anyone who died there because no-one they know has ever left the county they were born in.

You feel I was insensitive to wonder why they were upset by this campaign? I don't think so, insensitive would be sending them an email telling them they are wrong to feel that way. Even more insensitive would be write them off as irrelevant.

When will we see the "Shit Happens" toilet paper in support of bowel cancer? Will we wear brown "scented" wristbands? Will we all poop publicly to show our support for colonic well-being? Can we use it as an excuse to moon people from our cars show our assholes from our vehicles to raise awareness and not be arrested?

That's crazy talk.

Here's my support for the campaign to fight middle finger cancer.

I love it when you rant, especially when you talk dirty.

[classicman]

I
LOVE
BOOBIES

Ladies, please do whatever you can to detect and prevent breast cancer.
And men - encourage and help the women in your life to do the same.

[monster]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

No, men say tits.

yebbut, when they're married, they won't be free to talk about tits in general until the "test your tits" band comes out....



yup, I was mostly playing devil's advocate -that's why I specified some women. But I know this is how my friend feels, and I know she feels invaded when her son's friends feel it's Ok to come up and talk to her about her boobs and she is not a stuck in the 19th century prude, she's one of the most liberal and modern women I know. i think her reaction/feelings took her by surprise too.

And these women should have a say. For a start, they are more likely than anyone else to suffer from breast cancer in the future, it's not like they don't count (unless you discount women with one boob or less ...and then point made...) Have you seen the stats for recurrence? way way bigger chance of recurrence than in a previously un-booby-blighted person.

This is about Youth. Really? 'Cause they sure as heck listen. That's why there are no more teen pregnancies. Or at least fewer. Oh wait.

[footfootfoot]

Oh and let's not forget the war on drugs. Now it's impossible for teens or anyone else for that matter to get a hold of drugs.

I think your friend is right to be concerned about people's assumption that by raising the awareness of a disease, that makes her having it public business. People are getting crasser and I think it has not so much to do with wrist bracelets, but still...

Tits Rule

[monster]

women with no tits are worthless.

[footfootfoot]

Now, that's a little harsh. That's like saying a black man with a small dick who can't play basketball is worthless.

[monster]

is it really?

or is that a strawman?

[monster]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Oh and let's not forget the war on drugs. Now it's impossible for teens or anyone else for that matter to get a hold of drugs.

I think your friend is right to be concerned about people's assumption that by raising the awareness of a disease, that makes her having it public business. People are getting crasser and I think it has not so much to do with wrist bracelets, but still...

Tits Rule

that was quite an edit.......

...you don't think you shoulda maybe made the rest of it a separate post?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Corvette's rule. I don't think my having one before, and not having one now, makes me worthless.

[monster]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Corvette's rule.

Someone alert the grammar nazis...

[monster]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Corvette's rule. I don't think my having one before, and not having one now, makes me worthless.

srsly? do you feel the same about your penis?

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by monster

I love life.

Me too. Everyone should get to feel, and talk about, those things that have affected their life. Without anyone telling you that you're not feeling it correctly.

Thanks, monster, for the perspective that I hadn't thought of.

My mom is one of those breast cancer "thrivers" and yet I do not know her personal feelings on my "Save the Ta-Tas" shirt. She smiled and chuckled, but maybe I just don't know.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by monster

srsly? do you feel the same about your penis?

Can't say, still got it, but I'm comfortable with the fact that it doesn't perform like it used to.

[Shawnee123]

Insurance and Medicaid will pay for Viagra. Good luck getting insurance to pay for birth control.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by monster

is it really?

or is that a strawman?

No it's a reference to an old, tasteless racist joke that was popular here in the 60s and 70s. I don't imagine it would have been popular in England.

Yes, I have amazing editing skills.