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10-31-2002, 11:07 PM

I can't justify the expense of a Desert Eagle. You have a .45 or a .50? Aren't the .50 rounds ~$1?

elSicomoro · 10-31-2002, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by MaggieL
Well, fewer folks locally should make it *easier* to schedule a GTG than if there were more.

Then maybe we should form chapters. We have enough here for an Eastern Pennsylvania chapter. There are enough folks in Texas and Minnesota for chapters of their own.

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And...do you really want *one* room and a *block* of hookers? Or a block of rooms and one hooker?

My bad...a conference room. We would need a conference or banquet room. As far as hotel rooms, we'd probably need several.

But we'd still need a block of hookers.

Undertoad · 10-31-2002, 11:28 PM

I think I could afford everything EXCEPT for the digital camera I'd want to record it all, and the extra memory cards.

elSicomoro · 10-31-2002, 11:35 PM

"Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footsteps."--old saying that they used to throw at us all the time in Scouts

UT, there are some things that are best left to be imprinted only in our minds.

MaggieL · 11-01-2002, 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by dave
I can't justify the expense of a Desert Eagle. You have a .45 or a .50? Aren't the .50 rounds ~$1?

Like a lot of things, ammo prices are sharply dependent on the volume you're buying in.

Also on demand; there's a lot of people carrying/shooting .45 ACP ($15/box for 20 Cor-Bon +P 165 grain jacketed hollow points) whereas .50 AE is pretty much a round for movie stars and size queens. 20 rounds of that (325 Grains, Speer Gold Dot Hollow Point) will indeed run you $20 when it's not on sale.

(.454 Casull is up there too; a box of 20 rounds of Cor-Bon 320 grain Casull will cost you $30. And make your wrist and shoulder hurt too.)

My approach is: carry a 9mm auto with a 12-round magazine, and shoot double-taps. This way, you can either put 250 gr into the target (assuming a self-defense round, most of your ammo costs are for full-metal jacket practice amm o anyway, $10 or less for 50 rounds) or settle for a single 125 gr bullet but spreak them out across twice as many targets. That 9mm slug is probably moving at a higher MV too...

Flexibility is good.
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juju · 11-01-2002, 01:57 AM

You know, i've never even <i>seen</i> a Krispy Kreme. Do they really exist?

11-01-2002, 06:49 AM

juju - Yes, they do.

9mm for CC is probably reasonable and wise. Not too big, not so much recoil - so you can get off 2 shots quickly and accurately.

What make/model do you carry? I've always had a strong liking for Glock, myself, but... just curious what other people are carrying.

Nothing But Net · 11-01-2002, 07:20 AM

Baretta Model 20 - 25 calibre

Actually too small for Texas concealed carry laws, but I do anyway.

Inaccurate as hell over 10 yards, probably would only piss off a wacked out speed freak.

But, the psychological advantage is priceless if you have it when you need it... fortunately I've never needed it.

MaggieL · 11-01-2002, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by dave

What make/model do you carry? I've always had a strong liking for Glock, myself, but... just curious what other people are carrying.

Glocks are indeed very nice.

But a used Kel-Tec P-11 found its way into my life (we're still not spending money we don't have to around here) though a barter deal with a local gun shop, and It's what I carry. The P-11 was designed to accept Smith & Wesson 5900 and 6900 series magazines, so 12 and 15 round pre-ban mags are fairly easy to come by.

A 12-round mag with grip extension and finger rest vastly improves the steadiness of the hold; otherwise I'd only be able to get two fingers on the grip. And with the gun itself only weighing 14 oz unloaded, a firm grip is necessary if the slide is to operate reliably. Mine has a black polymer grip and a "belt" clip (usually used with a waistband or pocket).

Kel-Tec made the same gun chambered for a .40 S&W, but they've withdrawn it because too many people limpwristed it and then returned it as defective. With a very light frame, a lot of the push to compress the slide spring to chamber the next round has to come from the shooter's grip;there's very little inertia in 14 oz.

Yes, there definately are Krispy Kremes. They're insanely good.

MaggieL · 11-01-2002, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Nothing But Net
Baretta Model 20 - 25 calibre
Actually too small for Texas concealed carry laws, but I do anyway.

There's a size limit?

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Inaccurate as hell over 10 yards, probably would only piss off a wacked out speed freak.

Probably. It is a bit of a mousegun. Kel-Tec makes a nice .32 auto you might want to look at. People still call even that a spitwad though

BrianR · 11-01-2002, 01:10 PM

I'm a Glock convert myself. I carry one whenever I can, but I also hold my dear old .45 close.

Nothing like a Para-Ordnance P-14 with pre-ban mags weighing you down when you're in a bad situation that you can't handle any other way.

Brian

Nic Name · 11-01-2002, 01:51 PM

Trying to relate all this Glock Talk to the "Happy Halloween" thread topic ...

I guess it's fair to say that, if we lived in Davy Crockett land instead of Canada, my brother would be dead.

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The best Halloween scare that I was involved in was when we had just moved into our "haunted house" on the lake.

All the neighborhood kids thought the house was haunted anyway, because it hadn't been occupied for five years. The house was huge and set way back on a 4 acre parcel, so it was pretty spooky just walking up to the house in the dark.

We suited up my 6'3'' brother inside a real 8' Grizzly bear rug and sat him outside on the dimly lit porch. Just as the kids arrved, my brother would stand up and growl.

A few parents nearly had heart attacks. Folks were falling down in fear. The kids were great. It scared them so much none of them told their buddies what we were up to, except that we were giving out great treats and that it was really worth the long walk down the driveway.

Hubris Boy · 11-01-2002, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by dave
I can't justify the expense of a Desert Eagle. You have a .45 or a .50? Aren't the .50 rounds ~$1?

Neither. Mine's a .44. I have a first generation IMI Desert Eagle, made before the Israelis licensed the design to Magnum Research. They came in .357, .41 (God only knows why), .44, and .50 AE. I don't think they ever made one chambered for .45 ACP, did they?

You're right, though. .50 AE ammo is pretty expensive... .44 Magnum rounds are only marginally less so. That's why I handload.

MaggieL · 11-01-2002, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Nic Name

I guess it's fair to say that, if we lived in Davy Crockett land instead of Canada, my brother would be dead.

Could be. Maybe down here you would have been smart enough not to pull such a stunt. Maybe not.

We do have bears down here. I think most of us are smart enough not to try to take on even a brown bear (much less a grizzly) with a handgun. It takes a *very* lucky shot to stop a bear with a handgun.

Would you have thought it was a cute stunt if you'd actually managed to cause a heart attack?

Nic Name · 11-01-2002, 10:51 PM

Nope.

10-31-2002, 11:35 PM	#19
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	"Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footsteps."--old saying that they used to throw at us all the time in Scouts UT, there are some things that are best left to be imprinted only in our minds. Last edited by elSicomoro; 10-31-2002 at 11:37 PM.

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Nothing But Net Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Spring, Texas Posts: 1,481	What I carry Baretta Model 20 - 25 calibre Actually too small for Texas concealed carry laws, but I do anyway. Inaccurate as hell over 10 yards, probably would only piss off a wacked out speed freak. But, the psychological advantage is priceless if you have it when you need it... fortunately I've never needed it. Attached Images

11-01-2002, 01:10 PM	#26
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	I'm a Glock convert myself. I carry one whenever I can, but I also hold my dear old .45 close. Nothing like a Para-Ordnance P-14 with pre-ban mags weighing you down when you're in a bad situation that you can't handle any other way. Brian __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

10-31-2002, 11:07 PM	#16
dave Guest Posts: n/a	I can't justify the expense of a Desert Eagle. You have a .45 or a .50? Aren't the .50 rounds ~$1?

10-31-2002, 11:28 PM	#18
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I think I could afford everything EXCEPT for the digital camera I'd want to record it all, and the extra memory cards.

11-01-2002, 01:57 AM	#21
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	You know, i've never even <i>seen</i> a Krispy Kreme. Do they really exist?

11-01-2002, 06:49 AM	#22
dave Guest Posts: n/a	juju - Yes, they do. 9mm for CC is probably reasonable and wise. Not too big, not so much recoil - so you can get off 2 shots quickly and accurately. What make/model do you carry? I've always had a strong liking for Glock, myself, but... just curious what other people are carrying.

11-01-2002, 10:51 PM	#30
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	Nope.

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