White House caught in a Bribe? - Page 2

spudcon · 06-03-2010, 04:24 PM

But don't worry, the Justice Dept is looking into criminal charges against BP, JW Bush, Capitalism, America, and apple pie.

wolf · 06-04-2010, 01:45 PM

[sean]That's the Chicago way.[/connery]

I was not surprised by this ... but Benedict Arlen was doomed from the start.

Griff · 06-05-2010, 09:51 AM

I need a little help understanding what makes this unethical or corrupt? This is pretty standard party politics isn't it?

classicman · 06-05-2010, 12:17 PM

I think its unethical, corrupt AND pretty standard party politics.

It removes potential candidates from running for a particular office who the people might elect. That limits the peoples choices to candidates those which others have selected.

Griff · 06-05-2010, 12:46 PM

If you use their moral compass they are creating a way for two valuable people to stay in public service... Democracy itself is unethical/immoral but it is the system in place.

06-05-2010, 01:33 PM

Deals are made at all levels of politics...from dog catcher to president.

And this certainly doesnt rise to the level of "bribery" any more so that Reagan's attempt to clear the field for his daughter's run for senator in the 80s.

Obama also made a deal with Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of NH and the Democratic governor of NH when he offered the post of Commerce Secretary to Gregg with the agreement that the Democratic governor would appoint a Republican to fill Gregg's senate seat til the next election.

A tidbit of history. Eisenhower reportedly offer Earl Warren (the governor of California) a seat on the Supreme Court if Warren convinced his delegates at the convention that year to switch their votes to Eisenhower.

classicman · 06-05-2010, 03:54 PM

If you use their moral compass they are creating a way for peoplethat they have determined ....

I thought was "of the, by the, for the... - not dictated to the.

ETA - I know this has been going on for relatively ever in politics - nothing new.

spudcon · 06-05-2010, 04:03 PM

Wasn't Watergate pretty standard party politics also?
Also, isn't there something called the Hatch Act?

TheMercenary · 06-07-2010, 06:32 PM

Bull shit. It does not matter which party does it, it is illegal to try to bribe participants with promises of jobs which will produce income in an effort to influence and manipulate the election process.

Transparency my ass.......

The Dems have been caught in a pack of lies.

TheMercenary · 06-07-2010, 08:16 PM

This will be a great point of discussion in the coming elections.

Griff · 06-07-2010, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudcon

Wasn't Watergate pretty standard party politics also?
Also, isn't there something called the Hatch Act?

Breaking and entering probably crossed a line. There is something called the Hatch Act which I believe applies to public service employees but not to the partisan hacks er... policy makers placed above them. I could be wrong but this looks like the usual partisan game of holding your opposition to a much higher code than your team. The thing is this one does not seem to violate any code of ethics at all. I'm guessing that Glen Beck is selling it to you much better than you're selling it to us.

TheMercenary · 06-07-2010, 08:30 PM

But here is the rub...

The Obamanation and Pelosi set the bar. Not the Republickins. The Dems set the bar as to how there were going to conduct business. They failed to live up to the promises that got them elected.

Griff · 06-07-2010, 08:51 PM

Once again, please tell me what Obama did. Rush and Glenn are really good at selling partisan bullshit but you are not so you'll have to sell based on the quality of your product. What exactly are you trying to sell me?

TheMercenary · 06-07-2010, 09:01 PM

Man I have no idea what Rush and Glenn are selling, if you want to buy into the partisan bullshit of your party, go right ahead.

What Iam saying is that the Obama Administration and Pelosi set the bar. Not the Republickins. The Dems set the bar as to how there were going to conduct business. They failed to live up to the promises that got them elected. They lied to the American public to get elected and now the people are seeing through their Kabuki Theater. They lied to the people.

Since you obviously listen to Rush and Glen, what have they been saying as of late?

Griff · 06-07-2010, 09:08 PM

I have no party, only country. You appear to be moving further afield than this one thing which seems to have no traction, but it is my bed-time.

06-03-2010, 04:24 PM	#16
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	But don't worry, the Justice Dept is looking into criminal charges against BP, JW Bush, Capitalism, America, and apple pie. __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

06-04-2010, 01:45 PM	#17
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	[sean]That's the Chicago way.[/connery] I was not surprised by this ... but Benedict Arlen was doomed from the start. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-05-2010, 09:51 AM	#18
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I need a little help understanding what makes this unethical or corrupt? This is pretty standard party politics isn't it? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-05-2010, 12:17 PM	#19
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I think its unethical, corrupt AND pretty standard party politics. It removes potential candidates from running for a particular office who the people might elect. That limits the peoples choices to candidates those which others have selected. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-05-2010, 12:46 PM	#20
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	If you use their moral compass they are creating a way for two valuable people to stay in public service... Democracy itself is unethical/immoral but it is the system in place. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-05-2010, 01:33 PM	#21
Redux Guest Posts: n/a	Deals are made at all levels of politics...from dog catcher to president. And this certainly doesnt rise to the level of "bribery" any more so that Reagan's attempt to clear the field for his daughter's run for senator in the 80s. Obama also made a deal with Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of NH and the Democratic governor of NH when he offered the post of Commerce Secretary to Gregg with the agreement that the Democratic governor would appoint a Republican to fill Gregg's senate seat til the next election. A tidbit of history. Eisenhower reportedly offer Earl Warren (the governor of California) a seat on the Supreme Court if Warren convinced his delegates at the convention that year to switch their votes to Eisenhower. Last edited by Redux; 06-05-2010 at 01:46 PM.

06-05-2010, 03:54 PM	#22
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	If you use their moral compass they are creating a way for peoplethat they have determined .... I thought was "of the, by the, for the... - not dictated to the. ETA - I know this has been going on for relatively ever in politics - nothing new. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-05-2010, 04:03 PM	#23
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	Wasn't Watergate pretty standard party politics also? Also, isn't there something called the Hatch Act? __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

06-07-2010, 06:32 PM	#24
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Bull shit. It does not matter which party does it, it is illegal to try to bribe participants with promises of jobs which will produce income in an effort to influence and manipulate the election process. Transparency my ass....... The Dems have been caught in a pack of lies.

06-07-2010, 08:16 PM	#25
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	This will be a great point of discussion in the coming elections.

06-07-2010, 08:30 PM	#27
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	But here is the rub... The Obamanation and Pelosi set the bar. Not the Republickins. The Dems set the bar as to how there were going to conduct business. They failed to live up to the promises that got them elected.

06-07-2010, 08:51 PM	#28
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Once again, please tell me what Obama did. Rush and Glenn are really good at selling partisan bullshit but you are not so you'll have to sell based on the quality of your product. What exactly are you trying to sell me? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-07-2010, 09:01 PM	#29
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Man I have no idea what Rush and Glenn are selling, if you want to buy into the partisan bullshit of your party, go right ahead. What Iam saying is that the Obama Administration and Pelosi set the bar. Not the Republickins. The Dems set the bar as to how there were going to conduct business. They failed to live up to the promises that got them elected. They lied to the American public to get elected and now the people are seeing through their Kabuki Theater. They lied to the people. Since you obviously listen to Rush and Glen, what have they been saying as of late?

06-07-2010, 09:08 PM	#30
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I have no party, only country. You appear to be moving further afield than this one thing which seems to have no traction, but it is my bed-time. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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