Here's how it is, and this goes back to Socrates

"...as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- the world according to + E

[Shawnee123]

BacardiE? :p

[lumberjim]

RUMMY?

[jinx]

Humility is commendable, willful ignorance is not.
We can only know what we know today, with the understanding that tomorrow may bring information that changes what we know.
This is a common theme in the topics we discuss for home schooling. Lots of what we learn now is compared to what I learned way back when, so we can see, with this one generation, how knowledge changes over time. We are standing on the shoulders of giants, and at the same time, we become the giants.

[skysidhe]

Great thoughts on critical thinking Jinx.
There is no better gift to give our children than the tool of critical thought.

I'll take a critical thinker any day over a sophist.
( philosopher/politician)

The statements but me at a conundrum.

If I chose think I am smart then I am not wise.

If I say I know nothing then it is false humility in order to seem wise.

Critical thinking is beyond a persons ability to use language in order to manipulate.

...as I type my mind keeps wanting to put political flavors on it.
There are no greater sophists than our political leaders.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Bah, I know everything... just can't remember any of it.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Wise people tell us where they made terrible errors and mistakes, and how much they don't know.

See, I think the truly wise go further than that. They realize that knowledge is not a competition but a team effort and use their fuck-ups and what they learned from them to help others learn. But what do I know?

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by jinx

Humility is commendable, willful ignorance is not.
We can only know what we know today, with the understanding that tomorrow may bring information that changes what we know.
This is a common theme in the topics we discuss for home schooling. Lots of what we learn now is compared to what I learned way back when, so we can see, with this one generation, how knowledge changes over time. We are standing on the shoulders of giants, and at the same time, we become the giants.

this is why she is so hot.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Jinx, did you know the tongue map, different areas of the tongue taste sweet, sour, etc, is bullshit?

http://expertvoices.nsdl.org/science...s-a-taste-map/

http://www.paulspond.com/index.php?entry=212

[jinx]

No wai! Thx, I emailed the kids the links...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Uh, the second link is a little... uh, salty.

As my great uncle Ralph, who lost half his tongue in 'Nam, used to say, "Hrm rmrng rmhrm mrhng!", which translates to "I don't need the front half of my tongue to taste your aunt Gladys's sweet ass!"

[piercehawkeye45]

Intelligence means nothing if it isn't disciplined. I don't necessarily agree with Socrates about the "know nothing" part, unless he was trying to make a exaggerated point, because that is too close to the "no absolute truth" argument, which just annoys the hell out of me. But I agree that the most disciplined intelligence comes from lowering one's pride and understanding that you will be wrong most of the time because not only are unbiased opinions on most issues impossible to obtain but many, if not all, are subjective or dynamic in nature.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

How right you are. How much you know.

You can both spell, and construct a grammatical, trenchant sentence.

There will always be that irreducible core of bright folks who simply can't string a written declarative sentence together. You might consider Charles Lyell, and what Stephen Jay Gould wrote about trying to wade through his lengthy, paragraphic sentences.

But then there are the ones resistant to both training and logic. Their output is wretchedly suggestive of a head constructed of carven pine throughout.

[xoxoxoBruce]

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Cicero

I bow to your intellectual superiority.

Dude -- sit up straight and sin no more. It's not hard.