A woman scorned... - Page 2

Flint · 08-04-2009, 05:02 PM

Relatively speaking, yes. Of course on the other end of the scale you have "none of the above" so it's actually pretty close.

Shawnee123 · 08-04-2009, 05:03 PM

Hell, I have a problem with that fucking song about the hillbitch who tears the shit out of her boyfriend's cars cause he's all up in the bar getting drunk with some other chick.

Shel is right: if men had done that to a woman can you freaking imagine?

You say goodbye, you leave, or make him leave...and you get on with your life wiser and better.

There's absolutely no sense in what they did...and it makes me sick that there still exists a double standard that women can smack men around or do whatever they want because we're just weak l'il ole things who done been scorned. I see this kind of behavior as being completely counter-productive to fighting domestic violence.

Aliantha · 08-04-2009, 05:06 PM

OK, so smacking him around wasn't nice, but why should he get off scott free? They could have been more imaginative and then it would have been really entertaining.

Pie · 08-04-2009, 08:46 PM

FWIW I was laughing at the ridiculous $200 bail. Yeah, these women should get written up as sex offenders. Along with prison time (if convicted).

Cloud · 08-04-2009, 09:39 PM

Auntie Em? Surrender Dorothy!

toranokaze · 08-04-2009, 09:46 PM

It is appalling that very real violence, with the headline calling it torture, is laughed off as if this was a harmless practical joke.And a $200 bail is very low in fact the bail would have been higher if they did something to his car.

Cloud · 08-04-2009, 11:16 PM

A bunch of my friends think it's funny. It's really pissing me off. I understand the impulse to laugh at other people's misery, but we are further evolved than chimps.

toranokaze · 08-04-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

...but we are further evolved than chimps.

That is arguable.

Cloud · 08-04-2009, 11:38 PM

Well, some of us are, at least.

I'm blowing this all out of proportion. There are worse things, but sometimes things just get to me; sorry.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-04-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

I'm blowing this all out of proportion.

Maybe in your head/heart, but what you've written here is right.

Shawnee123 · 08-05-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

Well, some of us are, at least.

I'm blowing this all out of proportion. There are worse things, but sometimes things just get to me; sorry.

No, you're not. If we don't find this behavior deplorable then how can we turn the tables when the sexes are exchanged?

I don't care if I look like Ms Blow Out of Proportion to anyone: it is not right and it is not funny and I don't find it charming when women behave like stupid classless savages any more than I find it charming when men do, which is to say: it turns my stomach, and it's a dangerous precedent.

toranokaze · 08-04-2009, 11:46 PM

I see no reason to apologize you have understandable outrage.

Cloud · 08-05-2009, 12:21 PM

I went to bed last night still thinking about this--about why it bothered me so much. I compared this to the burning bed scenario, which I wasn't upset about at all. Why was this different? I realized that-- I really don't care about the guy--he's a jerk. Nor do I care about the women--they're stupid. I care more about people thinking it's funny. I understand why people laugh at such things--I just don't like it.

I just have a "Thing" about people being mean, petty, and cruel. Of course, I don't have as much of a problem with being shallow, selfish, and lazy.

And my last word on the subject-- if you didn't recognize the chimp reference, here's my foundation: Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. (I've often said I read too much Heinlein at an impressionable age).

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Of course it wasn't funny-it was tragic. That's why I had to laugh. I looked at a cageful of monkeys and suddenly I saw all the mean and cruel and utterly unexplainable things I've seen and heard and read about in the time I've been with my own people and suddenly it hurt so much I found myself laughing."

"But- Mike dear, laughing is something you do when something is nice - . . not when it's horrid."

"Is it? Think back to Las Vegas- When all you pretty girls came out on the stage, did people laugh?"

"Well ... no."

"But you girls were the nicest part of the show. I grok now, that if they had laughed, you would have been hurt. No, they laughed when a comic tripped over his feet and fell down ...or something else that is not a goodness."

Here's an article on the whole thing--about The Nature of Laughter:

http://ockhamsrazor.joeuser.com/article/161492

Shawnee123 · 08-05-2009, 12:37 PM

I think the difference between this event and those depicted in The Burning Bed (and this is a BIG difference) is the former is a cheater, the latter was an extremely abusive person who had continually beaten and hurt that woman until she broke. NOT the same thing AT all.

Fuck a bunch of cheaters. Leave his dumbass and find you a real man. A man who beats a woman should be dealt with within the law, but if I were on a jury I wouldn't vote to convict a woman in such an extreme situation as the one depicted in The Burning Bed.

OnyxCougar · 08-07-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

A man who beats a woman should be dealt with within the law, but if I were on a jury I wouldn't vote to convict a woman in such an extreme situation as the one depicted in The Burning Bed.

You wouldn't vote to convict a woman who tortured a man.

So how is the situation supposed to be dealt with by law if the jurors don't follow the law?

You're saying you would let this violent criminal go free.

I'm just calling it like I see it.

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Oh, and bite me. Twice.

Is that really necessary?

08-04-2009, 05:02 PM	#1
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Relatively speaking, yes. Of course on the other end of the scale you have "none of the above" so it's actually pretty close. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-04-2009, 05:03 PM	#2
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Hell, I have a problem with that fucking song about the hillbitch who tears the shit out of her boyfriend's cars cause he's all up in the bar getting drunk with some other chick. Shel is right: if men had done that to a woman can you freaking imagine? You say goodbye, you leave, or make him leave...and you get on with your life wiser and better. There's absolutely no sense in what they did...and it makes me sick that there still exists a double standard that women can smack men around or do whatever they want because we're just weak l'il ole things who done been scorned. I see this kind of behavior as being completely counter-productive to fighting domestic violence. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-04-2009, 05:06 PM	#3
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	OK, so smacking him around wasn't nice, but why should he get off scott free? They could have been more imaginative and then it would have been really entertaining. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

08-04-2009, 08:46 PM	#4
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	FWIW I was laughing at the ridiculous $200 bail. Yeah, these women should get written up as sex offenders. Along with prison time (if convicted). __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

08-04-2009, 09:39 PM	#5
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Auntie Em? Surrender Dorothy! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

08-04-2009, 09:46 PM	#6
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	It is appalling that very real violence, with the headline calling it torture, is laughed off as if this was a harmless practical joke.And a $200 bail is very low in fact the bail would have been higher if they did something to his car. __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

08-04-2009, 11:16 PM	#7
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	A bunch of my friends think it's funny. It's really pissing me off. I understand the impulse to laugh at other people's misery, but we are further evolved than chimps. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

08-04-2009, 11:38 PM	#9
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Well, some of us are, at least. I'm blowing this all out of proportion. There are worse things, but sometimes things just get to me; sorry. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!" Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 08-04-2009 at 11:51 PM. Reason: didn't edit, just hit the wrong button

08-04-2009, 11:46 PM	#12
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	I see no reason to apologize you have understandable outrage. __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

08-05-2009, 12:37 PM	#14
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I think the difference between this event and those depicted in The Burning Bed (and this is a BIG difference) is the former is a cheater, the latter was an extremely abusive person who had continually beaten and hurt that woman until she broke. NOT the same thing AT all. Fuck a bunch of cheaters. Leave his dumbass and find you a real man. A man who beats a woman should be dealt with within the law, but if I were on a jury I wouldn't vote to convict a woman in such an extreme situation as the one depicted in The Burning Bed. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

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