Republicans Want Party To Be Like Palin

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

I just dont get how some Republicans can believe that this is the way to restore the party's national credibility:

WTF are they thinking? Palin and the Plumber (aka war correspondent and now political consultant/strategist)?

I couldn't agree more.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The righty blogs seem to believe that the R party has lost its way by not being Conservative enough. Unfortunately only a third of them think this means they should push for less spending, and two-thirds of them think this means a return to moral/culture war issues.

I think that this is a losing idea, and I predict that, barring terror attack, the Rs will have to face an even bigger election loss before they find any traction. I believe the Terri Schaivo bumblefuck had more of an effect on the 2006 and 2008 elections than people think.

After this huge financial mess caused by greedy people on Wall Street, I think they will turn even more to the democratic party, especially if this administration stands up to those Wall Street pirates.

All the republican party wants to do is cut taxes even more for corporations/rich people and capital gains taxes. It simply doesn't work.

They have forgotten the true meaning of the word conservative which was originally about being fiscally conservative. They have turned it into a war against the American people, if you don't buy into to their particular brand of religion, or morals, or ethics, etc. And they have been such beacons of moral superiority...

[tw]

Numerous factions are vying to manipulate the Republican party. You can bet the wacko extremists are using Limbaugh to promote their new party agenda. However McConnell is the party leader. Either he will define the new Republican party or first be deposed.

Just because one faction got their new political agenda published does not mean that is the party agenda. It will take at least one year to see where the party intends to go. Currently we only have people shooting sky rockets to see how the crowd oooohs and aaaahs.

[ZenGum]

Palin ... Joe ... you are making this up, right?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Actually, I would like to see a Constitutional amendment to change the electoral college system so that a state's electoral votes can be divided and more representative...rather than winner take all (except for Maine and Nebraska)

The day we erase the lines of states it the day that will happen. It is obvious you don't care for the issues of states rights, because if you did you would consider that population statistics do not trump borders. The purpose of the Republic and the electoral college was to prevent that very thing. Democratic voting is just that, a winner take all majority rules. That is a dangerous thing because one day the tables may be turned and you might be on the other end of that pointed stick.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The day we erase the lines of states it the day that will happen. It is obvious you don't care for the issues of states rights, because if you did you would consider that population statistics do not trump borders. The purpose of the Republic and the electoral college was to prevent that very thing. Democratic voting is just that, a winner take all majority rules. That is a dangerous thing because one day the tables may be turned and you might be on the other end of that pointed stick.

In fact, I think it would be very supportive of states rights.

It would allow a state to chose whether all its electoral votes should go to the winner of that state's overall popular vote or to allocate the electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote in each congressional district which is how Maine and Nebraska do it now and I havent heard complaints from either party in those states.

In fact, if you want to look at it in a partisan manner, it would probably benefit the Republicans more - giving them electoral votes in large states (CA, NY, PA, MI, etc) that are traditionally Democratic....and you could include FL and OH this year.

But I should have said that I would like to see such an amendment introduced and debated. I cant say for certain that I would support it until hearing more on pros and cons.

[TheMercenary]

No, winner takes all is majority rule. Mob rule is not a good thing. Sounds just like Congress.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No, winner takes all is majority rule. Mob rule is not a good thing. Sounds just like Congress.

Are you suggesting that the presidential electoral process in Maine and Nebraska is by mob rule?

[TheMercenary]

No, I am suggesting that those states with winner take all are a flawed means to an end.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by classicman

Good Lord Please say it isn't so.

A new Rasmussen poll further demonstrates that the GOP could be in for a long stretch in the wilderness: A majority of GOP voters now say that the party should be more like Sarah Palin.

The numbers: 55% of Republicans say the party should be like Palin, compared to 24% who say they should be like John McCain.

As I've previously noted, poll data like this could indicate that the Republican Party is getting ready to relive the classic cycle of ruling parties who get turned out of power in a landslide: With the party base itself shrunk down, the people who are still around are the most hard-line members, and are really the least fit people to fix the situation.

Yep. This also happens to small parties. The Libertarians, for example.

[Undertoad]

Rog, been there done that! Watched the "purists" take over, walked away. Watched the "purists" walk away for "purity" reasons. Laughed.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Rog, been there done that! Watched the "purists" take over, walked away. Watched the "purists" walk away for "purity" reasons. Laughed.

Just because the 3rd parties are FUNNIER, doesn't make them BETTER.

[Undertoad]

Yes, it was a lesson hard learned.

[slang]

Originally Posted by classicman

The numbers: 55% of Republicans say the party should be like Palin, compared to 24% who say they should be like John McCain.

John McCain is an honorable man but I did not and would not vote for him. Why? I'm a conservative. He's not.

Palin is often mocked for interviews that she's done during the election. When I have seen her on TV it's understandable. Those that watch think that she's the dumbest ass on planet earth, except for W.

Glenn Beck has had her on his radio program long before, during and after the election. She's a conservative. Not a Rino, a conservative.

This perception of being a complete idiot will probably follow her with most viewers. Those of us that have heard her speak without her McCain handlers like what we heard and her record is consistent.

This past election I did not vote because "my guy" McCain didn't deserve to get my vote. Many conservatives that I've spoken to either held their nose and voted for him or didn't vote at all.

Those 24% should just slide on over to the Democratic party. The coming cycles will not garner huge support and more importantly more money for campaigns. That money will most likely come from conservatives for a real, honest to goodness conservative. Sarah Palin is one.

Those Rinos in office now are seeing the tide change and acting or speaking like they are not Dems. They know where the money is. The same as those hard lefty groups and their incredible ability to raise money to get Obama elected.

[HungLikeJesus]

The thing I don't understand about conservatives - what are they conserving?