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Old 11-04-2008, 10:56 PM   #1
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Sorrow.

The Democrats better win the war better than the Republicans. And their chance of doing it? Hah.
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I see you're upset. You shouldn't be worried though. Despite your belief that their chances of doing it better are very small, consider this uplifting thought. It is impossible that they could win the war worse.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:41 PM   #2
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*nods*

I went from liking McCain and thinking him a good choice for president (despite that I disagree with his politics) to thinking he would be a poor president, over the course of the campaign. Not because of his politics, but because of his responses and character. That's not to say I think he has a weak character, or a bad character, but I don't think he is presidential material, simply because of how fazed he was when crisis struck, and how little control he seemed able to exert over his campaign.

Had he won, he'd have owed his position entirely to those who orchestrated his campaign and would not have been 'free' politically. His willingness to let them orchestrate it spoke volumes.

I think he's a very good man. A brave man, and a man who genuinely believes in public service. Being brilliant in the field and brave in battle, and being able to see, predict, respond to the wider political and economic situation are two different things.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:49 PM   #3
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I wouldn't mind seeing McCain be the head of a NEW political party... break away from the loony bins that have taken control of the Republican party. Take all the moderates and the centrists and get 2nd party that's more interested in getting real work done, as opposed to mindless prattling.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:56 AM   #4
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:22 AM   #5
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I think this goes for Obama too, there's the worst of times coming up in the next 1 -2 years, and he just volunteered to preside over it.
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:21 PM   #6
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I think this goes for Obama too, there's the worst of times coming up in the next 1 -2 years, and he just volunteered to preside over it.


So that's why i suddenly feel a close connection with him


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Old 11-08-2008, 07:42 AM   #7
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:50 PM   #8
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If I remember correctly, I heard the college student vote was 68% for Obama.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:50 PM   #9
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:51 PM   #10
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They must have seen your video.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:54 PM   #11
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Quite the celebration going on Kenya too. I think we suddenly have a 51st state.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:05 PM   #12
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Quite the celebration going on Kenya too. I think we suddenly have a 51st state.
According to Obama, that would be #58.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:52 PM   #13
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Comrade Barack will be redistributing your wealth as I type this.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:53 PM   #14
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What's needed is some kind of rapprochement I think. The polarisation of the last decade or so has done such harm and caused such unhappiness and cultural unease, it is time for that to change. I hope that this can be done.

Of course, the radical in me wuold love to see a bold program righting the wrongs (as I perceive them) and fixing the problems fast. But...Obama needs to walk a careful line. This vote is a mandate for change. Therefore he owes it to his electorate to deliver change. But, he also has to bring about healing, and that won't happen if he alienates those who are uneasy with radical reform.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:57 PM   #15
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What's needed is some kind of rapprochement I think. The polarisation of the last decade or so has done such harm and caused such unhappiness and cultural unease, it is time for that to change. I hope that this can be done.

Of course, the radical in me wuold love to see a bold program righting the wrongs (as I perceive them) and fixing the problems fast. But...Obama needs to walk a careful line. This vote is a mandate for change. Therefore he owes it to his electorate to deliver change. But, he also has to bring about healing, and that won't happen if he alienates those who are uneasy with radical reform.
From my blog yesterday:

I think that Sen. Obama is a smart man who will surround himself with smart people. I think that he will also work with Republicans while pushing a more liberal agenda--not a socialist one, not even a liberal one per se. I do worry that he might be setting the bar too high, though I've also seen him try to temper expectations.
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