rotator cuff - Page 2

footfootfoot · 08-19-2008, 08:00 PM

my sister was goosed in canada on 911, etc etc you insensitve bastards.

classicman · 08-19-2008, 10:00 PM

Flint · 08-21-2008, 02:10 PM

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Is this a repetitive use drumming injury?

Don't think so. I'm very concerned with proper mechanics on the drums.

The most likely culprit...I've narrowed down to the rowing machine at the gym. Now there's a repetitive shoulder movement, and the biggest thing I've done "different" lately.

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you've had the mri? sure it's not tendinitis?

I'm not sure of anything; I haven't had it diagnosed. But I've got a sharp pain at the head of the humerus, distinctly brought on by raising the arm laterally. Lowering the arm, laterally, is much worse and it actually "drops" a little. It isn't the pain that bothers me it's that by body is telling me "STOP DOING THAT!"

Running through some "rotator cuff exercises" by memory caused me to exclaim, "That's it! THAT is the exact thing I should NOT do."

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my left shoulder has been hurting for quite some time, too. I just suck it up and deal with the pain, mary.

It's not the "hurting" that bothers me. It's the total loss of the lateral range-of-motion.

It's not like I can just jump on the smith machine and crank out a strip set of military presses and pop a few advil.

I've known people who just "toughed it out" when they tore their RC, and consequently NEVER regained a normal range-of-motion.

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From my research on the webs it seems most RC injuries come down to one of four options (assuming you have the $ or insurance) ranging from best case to worst case:
a) Physical therapy and you are good to go
b) Steroid injections, up to three of them and you are good to go. More than three usually means they are not gonna work, so
c) Debridement, bankhart procedure, or some other sugical stuff, possibly a bursectomy all of this depends on what is wrong with you, have a surgeon who does shoulder surgery all the time look at you and work on you. get referrals and research.
d) you're gonna die, can we have your stereo?

I'm using the cold one wrap, bombay saphire taken orally 2-3x per evening, hiring a couple of minions to help finish the house, and sucking it up, mary.

Good luck

ShoulderSolutions - Shoulder surgery options for a torn rotator cuff repair.

Shoulder Wrap - Large (160-220 lbs.): Cold One

Shoulder Injuries and Conditions - HSS.edu

Thanks for the info. I'm leaning towards laying off of lateral use of that arm for a few weeks until I can see my osteopath, and at that point determine whether it seems to be clearing itself up.

And I'll let you have my back-up garage stereo for cheap.

lookout123 · 08-21-2008, 02:15 PM

how long has it been since you lost your range of motion, mary, I mean Flint? I have, more than once, done minor soft tissue damage that severely limited my range of motion, but it usually returns within 10-14 days at the most. In each case it felt like something major early on, but turned out to be fairly minor.

The only case of more than minor damage was my knee and that wasn't about loss of range as much as "look how much my range of motion has grown!" and that's not good.

Flint · 08-21-2008, 02:22 PM

Sharp "stop doing that!" pains came on last Friday, continued unabated over the weekend. Actually, feeling a little better for the first time today.

It doesn't hurt at all until I move it wrong, and I'm getting better about avoiding the specific movements that aggravate it.

My plan is to restrict upper-body workouts to the sissiest of maintenance work, on machines. And my legs are about to get a brutal punishment, as I channel my workout frustration into them. Calves, you get you own day!

lookout123 · 08-21-2008, 02:27 PM

hit the anti inflammatories hard, Mary. Advil + appropriate cream (if you don't have anything prescription strenth, try biofreeze) for at least a week with careful stretching.

Flint · 08-21-2008, 02:34 PM

I've got some biofreeze (I always keep some in my gig bag) but the thing is, it hurts on the inside, and it's not the kind of hurt that I want to mask or ignore. I think it's supposed to hurt so I won't move it that way.

And the ibuprofen (also always keep in my gig bag)...I didn't have any with me when I went to the country over the weekend, so I never started taking them.

I always tell people that 4 otc (200 mg) ibuprofens equals one prescription stregth anti-inflammatory.

lookout123 · 08-21-2008, 03:24 PM

True about the IB. i would say the biofreeze would be ok to use though because you aren't using it to cover pain so you can keep doing the harmful activity. you are using it to reduce the inflammation. If it is just run of the mill soft tissue damage you should feel a big difference within a week or two with that treatment. if it still is wrong then that is a huge flashing sign saying "get thee to a specialist".

squirell nutkin · 08-21-2008, 04:16 PM

Dude, get that cold one thingy. Ice and aleve or IB.

monster · 08-29-2008, 08:41 PM

hon, I bugger up my RC on a regular basis. get yourself some physical therapy. really. there are so many ways you can fuck it up, and so many exercises to fix it. It's not a one size fits all injury. I've found. A PT will really help. if you can't afford regular visits, just go the once for an evaluation and a list of exercises

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08-21-2008, 02:15 PM	#19
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	how long has it been since you lost your range of motion, mary, I mean Flint? I have, more than once, done minor soft tissue damage that severely limited my range of motion, but it usually returns within 10-14 days at the most. In each case it felt like something major early on, but turned out to be fairly minor. The only case of more than minor damage was my knee and that wasn't about loss of range as much as "look how much my range of motion has grown!" and that's not good. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

08-21-2008, 02:22 PM	#20
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Sharp "stop doing that!" pains came on last Friday, continued unabated over the weekend. Actually, feeling a little better for the first time today. It doesn't hurt at all until I move it wrong, and I'm getting better about avoiding the specific movements that aggravate it. My plan is to restrict upper-body workouts to the sissiest of maintenance work, on machines. And my legs are about to get a brutal punishment, as I channel my workout frustration into them. Calves, you get you own day! __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-21-2008, 02:27 PM	#21
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	hit the anti inflammatories hard, Mary. Advil + appropriate cream (if you don't have anything prescription strenth, try biofreeze) for at least a week with careful stretching. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

08-21-2008, 02:34 PM	#22
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I've got some biofreeze (I always keep some in my gig bag) but the thing is, it hurts on the inside, and it's not the kind of hurt that I want to mask or ignore. I think it's supposed to hurt so I won't move it that way. And the ibuprofen (also always keep in my gig bag)...I didn't have any with me when I went to the country over the weekend, so I never started taking them. I always tell people that 4 otc (200 mg) ibuprofens equals one prescription stregth anti-inflammatory. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-21-2008, 03:24 PM	#23
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	True about the IB. i would say the biofreeze would be ok to use though because you aren't using it to cover pain so you can keep doing the harmful activity. you are using it to reduce the inflammation. If it is just run of the mill soft tissue damage you should feel a big difference within a week or two with that treatment. if it still is wrong then that is a huge flashing sign saying "get thee to a specialist". __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

08-21-2008, 04:16 PM	#24
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	Dude, get that cold one thingy. Ice and aleve or IB.

08-29-2008, 08:41 PM	#25
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	hon, I bugger up my RC on a regular basis. get yourself some physical therapy. really. there are so many ways you can fuck it up, and so many exercises to fix it. It's not a one size fits all injury. I've found. A PT will really help. if you can't afford regular visits, just go the once for an evaluation and a list of exercises __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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