Muslims hate cute puppy advert

[Sundae]

Imagine an "out" homosexual advertising a public service in Bible Belt America.
How offensive would that be deemed?

And I would be dismissive of the condemnation too - in fact I'd be more strident in my view as it involves a human being.

[lookout123]

You mean like Ellen doing PSA's? No indignation. Any nutjob who complains about that is pretty quickly written off.

I'm just amazed that people have not gotten sick and tired of the poor offended muslims popping up all the time.

[footfootfoot]

Assimilate or go the fuck back where you came from.

[lookout123]

Dana, you are in England and I am not so YMMV, but what I notice is that the people who are offended most often and what us to change are people that chose to come here voluntarily. That means that something caused them to wake up and decide that the US was better than where they were living; better enough that they chose take the risk in moving here. Now they are here and the complaints they have are generally of the "you people who've always been here have to change to make this place more like the home we left so we'll be comfortable."

Uh, eff that. if you thought back home was better, then go back. If you feel that here is better, then enjoy. Either way shut the fuck up with the "i'm offended PC chorus".

[monster]

Problem is, it's not usually the first generation immigrants who are offended. They know to keep their heads down and try to assimilate/be invisible. It's the second and third generation who feel American and are American, but with a non-Christian familly culture. Are they so much less entitled than you in this "cultural melting pot", this land of immigration?

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by monster

Problem is, it's not usually the first generation immigrants who are offended. They know to keep their heads down and try to assimilate/be invisible. It's the second and third generation who feel American and are American, but with a non-Christian familly culture. Are they so much less entitled than you in this "cultural melting pot", this land of immigration?

This is the same in Britain. It is rarely the first generation of immigrants that raise any protest. Their children however are brought up in a country where they are entitled to have their say and to the benefits that living in a reasonably affluent free thinking society affords. They are British, but the difference between their home and the street leads them to identify themselves as British Muslim (you almost never hear British Asian). So they are more vocal about their religion.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

This is the same in Britain. It is rarely the first generation of immigrants that raise any protest. Their children however are brought up in a country where they are entitled to have their say and to the benefits that living in a reasonably affluent free thinking society affords. They are British, but the difference between their home and the street leads them to identify themselves as British Muslim (you almost never hear British Asian). So they are more vocal about their religion.

key words, "where they {think} they are entitled". And that is the problem.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

key words, "where they {think} they are entitled". And that is the problem.

Nope. If you are born and bred in Britain you are British and therefore entitled to have your say. I would like to believe it is the same in the US.

Re complaints etc. People often react on behalf of other people's sensibilities. I know there are things that are supposedly offensive to Christians that my parents shrug off as irrelevant. Like the chocolate crucifed Christ - my Mum made some comment about it not lasting past Easter Sunday in their house.

I genuinely believe (and it has been upheld by personal experience) that the majority of British Muslims are decent, reasonable and logical people. They know the rules of their own religion and can and do adapt it to Western life in the 21st century.

[lookout123]

That's the point SG. No one is saying all muslims = bad bitchy people who deserve no respect. I am saying that the muslims who get in a tizzy and call the reporters and are oh so put upon by a picture of a dog, should just be ignored. quit giving them the attention they seek out. everyone is offended by something, that is life. it seems like we as a society are far too concerned about what offends muslims. seriously, tell them to shut the hell up, sit back down, and get on with life.

[classicman]

That is just ridiculous - no one should be offended at all. This is, to me a STFU issue.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I suppose they will complain about the coming police dogs being on the streets.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by classicman

That is just ridiculous - no one should be offended at all. This is, to me a STFU issue.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I suppose they will complain about the coming police dogs being on the streets.

Amen, brothers. Oh, sorry. I'm sure I offended some christians...and probably someone's brother.

Yep, it's a STFU to me, and my pic is beside the word liberal in the dictionary. FFS, it's an ad for a number that has a pic of a damn police dog.

I lost my police dog as he was rummaging through the waste of the Twin Towers looking for survivors and, failing those, the dead.

Poor pitiful people, having to look at a dog on a poster.

[Cloud]

wow, quite a divergence of opinion here. I have all sorts of reactions. Among them:

--that Dana is right, in that an ad for public services should be appreciated by the largest number of the public for maximum effectiveness
--that classicman and foot3 are right; there's too much catering to special interest groups in the name of political correctness, and to Muslim groups in particular out of guilt and fear
--that Mohammed was a pussy who was scared of big black dogs and so condemned an entire people to go without the service and companionship of one of man's best friends
--but that means that Muslims are cat people--a point in their favor!
--another reason why Islam is a fucked-up religion, and a poor model to base a culture on
--that I don't agree with the "go back to where you came from" sentiment; at all.
--that there may be some relevant cultural and political differences between the UK and the US which haven't been addressed here
--and I wonder what blind Muslims do?

Can't say I'm right or wrong on any of that stuff, but this is what has been going through my mind in response to this thread.

[Troubleshooter]

Muslims may not have to undergo sniffer dog checks in UK

LONDON: Muslim passengers may not be touched by sniffer dogs of the British Transport Police after complaints that the practice is against Islam. According to the religion, dogs are deemed to be spiritually “unclean”.

A Transport Department report has raised the prospect that animals should only touch passengers’ luggage because it is considered “more acceptable”, the Daily Express reported. The ban may restrict the efficiency of sniffer dog squads which have been trained to spot terrorists at railway stations.

On Thursday night, British Transport Police insisted that it would still use sniffer dogs with any passengers regardless of faith, but handlers would remain aware of “cultural sensitivities”.

The Transport Department report follows the trials of station security measures in the wake of the 2005 London suicide bomb attacks. In one trial, certain Muslim women said the use of a body scanner was also unacceptable because it amounted to being forced to strip.

During the trials, passengers stopped in London had the exterior of their bags checked by dogs. But in Brighton, dogs patrolled the station concourse and were walked past passengers by their handlers. Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, however, said that even dogs touching baggage would be an issue for a Muslim preparing to pray. But he stressed on the fact that it should be easy to allow dogs to check passengers without physical contact.

[Kingswood]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

LONDON: Muslim passengers may not be touched by sniffer dogs of the British Transport Police after complaints that the practice is against Islam. According to the religion, dogs are deemed to be spiritually “unclean”.

If they don't want to get touched by sniffer dogs looking for explosives, then they must stop killing innocent people and protecting those among them who plan to do more terrorism. Muslims have been blowing people up on the London public transport system. It is entirely within the rights for a sovereign nation to do what it can to reduce the chance of that happening again.

Everyone else in a country is expected to reduce their freedoms if it is required in times of need. Muslims who choose to live in the UK - or any other Western country - must be expected to do the same. If they have a problem with dogs touching them when it is necessary for the protection of others, they can STFU and deal with it or leave the country.

I'm pretty sure if we were living in Iran or Saudi Arabia and we objected to those parts of Sharia law that we found offensive such as their practice of beheading people, we would not be heeded. Why should we heed those who are offended by a PICTURE of a dog sitting in a hat? The picture of a dog isn't going to hurt anyone.