Happy Birthday Peace Sign - Page 2

Elspode · 04-05-2008, 01:15 AM

WTF? What does totalitarianism have to do with *peace*?

The *desire* for peace has zip to do with how it is achieved. Peace should be the goal of all of us. Sadly, the realities of society make achievement of that end problematic.

Sadly, sometimes we must wage war to end up with peace. Probably the biggest single dichotomy of human existence, IMHO.

Sundae · 04-05-2008, 11:41 AM

Reminds me of Stephen King's Hearts in Atlantis story.
It seems odd to me that the peace sign was invented (yes, I know it was) because I saw it everywhere growing up. That and the A in a circle denoting anarchy, although that was mostly graffiti.

How to brainwash your children? Tell them that the sign for anarchy is drawn by people who don't want laws. Any laws, but especially the good laws that protect people. So anyone would be free to kill and steal and hurt and burn down your home... It gives a visceral reaction to a 5 year old and tends to make them view the 16?17?yo punks in the town centre as harbingers of unimaginable horror.

Urbane Guerrilla · 04-07-2008, 11:06 PM

Bruce, that's a very questionable remark for someone of your manifest intelligence, in spite of how widely you've gone astray.

I said it -- precisely because it's the thing you'd rather wave away. Sorry 'bout that (I kid), but the question stands. Answer well, or would you rather do what so many of the adherents to the view you'd rather I adopted, and wimp right out?

Wimping out, of course, is hardly acceptable to good men, but much cherished by bad ones. Well, fuck that for a dollar and a half.

But go ahead and essay a decent reply. The exercise may well give you improvement and insight -- which I like. I'd particularly like it in you.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-08-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

But go ahead and essay a decent reply. The exercise may well give you improvement and insight -- which I like. I'd particularly like it in you.

It doesn't take an essay to respond to your statement. The question is about something no one has proposed, or even suggested, so why debate it?

skysidhe · 04-08-2008, 12:24 AM

oh no! Peace out UG!

Urbane Guerrilla · 04-12-2008, 02:01 AM

You seem to be ignoring that I have proposed it. You, my friend, are wimping out. Not good. Doubleplusungood, if you'd rather. But I do get those a lot from my opposition -- excuses, that is.

The utter inability to recognize, let alone destroy/remove/verb of choice so long as it is eliminative the evil of totalitarianism (it's too easy for totalitarianism to stay evil, and good government does not come from the totalitarian philosophy) is what tells me the Left is collossally Stupid with a capital S. They can't remove, repel, or even admit of evil. Stupid people, full of worthless excuses. Low, crawling, lickers of the jackboot. Such as these shall never ever be let into power again.

Why associate with this even in your mind, Bruce? I don't. Yet you tell me this is somehow the "wrong road?" I laugh, Bruce. I laugh.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-12-2008, 11:10 AM

Cartman, is that you?

Urbane Guerrilla · 04-12-2008, 11:09 PM

Probably not.

I'm not impressed yet. Pity, really; you're not stupid and you aren't warped. You could come to enlightenment, but you don't want to.

Seems to me a dumb thing not to want.

04-05-2008, 01:15 AM	#1
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	WTF? What does totalitarianism have to do with peace? The desire for peace has zip to do with how it is achieved. Peace should be the goal of all of us. Sadly, the realities of society make achievement of that end problematic. Sadly, sometimes we must wage war to end up with peace. Probably the biggest single dichotomy of human existence, IMHO. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

04-05-2008, 11:41 AM	#2
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Reminds me of Stephen King's Hearts in Atlantis story. It seems odd to me that the peace sign was invented (yes, I know it was) because I saw it everywhere growing up. That and the A in a circle denoting anarchy, although that was mostly graffiti. How to brainwash your children? Tell them that the sign for anarchy is drawn by people who don't want laws. Any laws, but especially the good laws that protect people. So anyone would be free to kill and steal and hurt and burn down your home... It gives a visceral reaction to a 5 year old and tends to make them view the 16?17?yo punks in the town centre as harbingers of unimaginable horror. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

04-07-2008, 11:06 PM	#3
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Bruce, that's a very questionable remark for someone of your manifest intelligence, in spite of how widely you've gone astray. I said it -- precisely because it's the thing you'd rather wave away. Sorry 'bout that (I kid), but the question stands. Answer well, or would you rather do what so many of the adherents to the view you'd rather I adopted, and wimp right out? Wimping out, of course, is hardly acceptable to good men, but much cherished by bad ones. Well, fuck that for a dollar and a half. But go ahead and essay a decent reply. The exercise may well give you improvement and insight -- which I like. I'd particularly like it in you. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

04-12-2008, 02:01 AM	#6
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	You seem to be ignoring that I have proposed it. You, my friend, are wimping out. Not good. Doubleplusungood, if you'd rather. But I do get those a lot from my opposition -- excuses, that is. The utter inability to recognize, let alone destroy/remove/verb of choice so long as it is eliminative the evil of totalitarianism (it's too easy for totalitarianism to stay evil, and good government does not come from the totalitarian philosophy) is what tells me the Left is collossally Stupid with a capital S. They can't remove, repel, or even admit of evil. Stupid people, full of worthless excuses. Low, crawling, lickers of the jackboot. Such as these shall never ever be let into power again. Why associate with this even in your mind, Bruce? I don't. Yet you tell me this is somehow the "wrong road?" I laugh, Bruce. I laugh. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 04-12-2008 at 02:08 AM.

04-12-2008, 11:10 AM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Cartman, is that you? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-08-2008, 12:24 AM	#5
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	oh no! Peace out UG!

04-12-2008, 11:09 PM	#8
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Probably not. I'm not impressed yet. Pity, really; you're not stupid and you aren't warped. You could come to enlightenment, but you don't want to. Seems to me a dumb thing not to want. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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