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Drax · 02-29-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

Did you read what Els wrote?

Yes I did. Telling xi to stop "helping" witches tells me that Els think all witches are evil. Anyway, I don't think discussing it is weird at all, but I don't want to go into an extensive debate. I don't do debates.

Cloud · 02-29-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Drax

Yes I did. Telling xi to stop "helping" witches tells me that Els think all witches are evil. Anyway, I don't think discussing it is weird at all, but I don't want to go into an extensive debate. I don't do debates.

but the "we're even weirder" phrase should have been a clue.

binky · 02-29-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Drax

Yes I did. Telling xi to stop "helping" witches tells me that Els think all witches are evil. Anyway, I don't think discussing it is weird at all, but I don't want to go into an extensive debate. I don't do debates.

Why? Wouldja miss Hannah Montana?

Drax · 02-29-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by binky

Why? Wouldja miss Hannah Montana?

GIVE IT A REST, ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Elspode · 03-02-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Drax

Yes I did. Telling xi to stop "helping" witches tells me that Els think all witches are evil. Anyway, I don't think discussing it is weird at all, but I don't want to go into an extensive debate. I don't do debates.

Drax...I *am* a witch. For over ten years and going strong. My wife and I ran a Wiccan coven for that length of time, took a hiatus, and are now reforming it with family and extended family for the purpose of magickally and mundanely bringing greater unity, peace and healing to our respective worlds.

Mostly, I was joshing with Xi, because it seemed obvious that, like most people, there was a serious lack of knowledge about what witchcraft and witches are all about in today's world. In the same way that there is no one specific Christian ethos, witches, or those who call themselves such, have a wide range of beliefs, practices and ethical guidelines by which they function. However, if you walk around and call yourself a witch in most of society, people *will* think you're weird. However, apart from some other nonstandard lifestyle choices in our household, we're as normal and regular as anyone else. We have jobs, raise children, go to our version of church, pay taxes, counsel our friends and community members, and dance naked around fires while playing drums.

Okay, maybe the last part is something that most people don't do...but they want to.

So, to summarze...I don't think witches are weird. I think *people* are weird, and witches are people, just like everyone else. Think about it...how is it weirder for us to worship Universal energy in the form of trees and rocks and air and water and fire and such than it is for someone to worship an invisible, insecure, vindictive Omnipotent power named Jehovah?

Drax · 03-02-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

Drax...I *am* a witch.

That 's all you had to say.

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Originally Posted by Els

Think about it...how is it weirder for us to worship Universal energy in the form of trees and rocks and air and water and fire and such than it is for someone to worship an invisible, insecure, vindictive Omnipotent power named Jehovah?

It's not, in fact, it may be better cuz you know nature's real. Not even the most faithful can prove the existence of God, no matter what name we use.

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Blessed be.

Shawnee123 · 02-29-2008, 02:48 PM

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt

xiphos · 02-29-2008, 05:26 PM

jeez... i didn't know saying i was atheist was gonna start a debate... well, thats what the cellar is all about. I, for 1, think religion is just a set of ideas, as said before. Because we all know how technical people were in the beginning of time, I think they were just interested in how they thought the world was created, and what lies beyond the universe.

To get a new conversation started, has anyone ever thought what lies beyond space? Is is all black? Is it Heaven?

That is probably what the people who created Christianity thought.
As for Jesus, I believe that he was exaggerated and didn't do all thoses miracles, like parting the Red Sea in the Exodus event.

Cloud · 03-01-2008, 10:47 AM

[quote=xiphos;436109]jeez... i didn't know saying i was atheist was gonna start a debate... QUOTE]

Welcome to the Cellar! :p

Trilby · 03-01-2008, 07:23 AM

Drax...chill. It's just that there ARE some members of the Cellar who are pagans or wiccan and consider themselves witches. Having said that, I highly doubt Els thinks witches are "evil."

Drax · 03-01-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

Drax...chill. It's just that there ARE some members of the Cellar who are pagans or wiccan and consider themselves witches. Having said that, I highly doubt Els thinks witches are "evil."

That's not what pissed about. Read #21 again.

lumberjim · 03-01-2008, 11:33 AM

more witches!

Trilby · 03-01-2008, 11:59 AM

That's fair caught.

Clodfobble · 03-01-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xiphos

As for Jesus, I believe that he was exaggerated and didn't do all thoses miracles, like parting the Red Sea in the Exodus event.

Absolutely. Jesus definitely did not part the Red Sea, and anyone who says he did is a complete fucking idiot.

Drax · 03-01-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Absolutely. Jesus definitely did not part the Red Sea, and anyone who says he did is a complete fucking idiot.

Umm...actually that was Yahweh thru Moses.

Anyway, aren't we getting way off topic here?

02-29-2008, 02:48 PM	#7
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-01-2008, 10:47 AM	#9
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	[quote=xiphos;436109]jeez... i didn't know saying i was atheist was gonna start a debate... QUOTE] Welcome to the Cellar! :p __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

03-01-2008, 11:33 AM	#12
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	more witches! __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-29-2008, 05:26 PM	#8
xiphos Bryan. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 63	jeez... i didn't know saying i was atheist was gonna start a debate... well, thats what the cellar is all about. I, for 1, think religion is just a set of ideas, as said before. Because we all know how technical people were in the beginning of time, I think they were just interested in how they thought the world was created, and what lies beyond the universe. To get a new conversation started, has anyone ever thought what lies beyond space? Is is all black? Is it Heaven? That is probably what the people who created Christianity thought. As for Jesus, I believe that he was exaggerated and didn't do all thoses miracles, like parting the Red Sea in the Exodus event.

03-01-2008, 07:23 AM	#10
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Drax...chill. It's just that there ARE some members of the Cellar who are pagans or wiccan and consider themselves witches. Having said that, I highly doubt Els thinks witches are "evil."

03-01-2008, 11:59 AM	#13
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	That's fair caught.

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