Coyote Attack In My Neighborhood

[Aliantha]

what would your stick/no stick preference be?

I think I'd go for a pocket nuke actually. It's a dog eat cat world out there and I've always been a pussy, so I wouldn't take any chances.

[Cloud]

a very quick perusal of sites googled from "coyote urban" has some interesting information; the most alarming of which is a warning to keep young children safe in areas where there are a lot of coyotes.

Like Chicago.

Dingos ate my baby anyone?

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/urban...an_cities_9663

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Flint

I was driving to work, about 7:30 this morning, when I saw something that looked like a dog crossing the road...but it looked unusual...it was carrying something. As I got closer, it was prancing right across someone's front yard, carrying in it's mouth...a very floppy and dead-looking cat. But this thing wasn't a dog. It's legs were much too long, it had tall pointy ears and a thin, pointy snout. It was mottled gray, and a little smaller than a large-sized dog...with those long legs...trotting along right there a few blocks away from my house with a dead cat in it's mouth. In broad daylight.

Now, I've heard from several people in the neighborhood that they've had cats attacked "by dogs" according to them. And, everybody I see going for a walk always carries some kind of beating stick. We're adjacent to some wooded, undeveloped areas here. I think we have a coyote problem.

Someone needs to shoot it. You can kill them with a .22 rifle. They are a pest in this area and you can get a small bounty in some areas for each one killed. Their pelts are beautiful.

[shoot]

I think cats are the real pest in all areas. They have decimated native bird populations til there are nothing left but starlings(an invasive species),in fact cats are classified as an invasive species and in some areas steps are being taken to control their populations. I know in Wisconsin it is legal to shoot cats on sight,the bird and rabbit populations are undergoing mass extinctions due almost entirely to cats. So instead of trying to curtail the coyotes appetite for felis domesticus,I motion that we encourage them. Lets toss around a few ideas,Ill start. Perhaps presenting injured or in someway immobilized cats would help,maybe even dabble some beef broth or gravy over them. A box full of newborn kittens is sure to please,again with the broth and gravy. Im sure there are others. One more thing,the next time someone thinks about posting that 'coyotes are in his neighborhood' perhaps it should be rephrased to more correctly represent the truth maybe 'I am invading a coyote's neighborhood'.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by shoot

One more thing,the next time someone thinks about posting that 'coyotes are in his neighborhood' perhaps it should be rephrased to more correctly represent the truth maybe 'I am invading a coyote's neighborhood'.

I disagree with everything you've written except this part. Same goes for all those folks living out in the AZ desert complaining about rattle snakes--the snakes were there first, no?

As far as kitties being a nuisance I am partial. I own three kitties and I wuv them. I also keep them indoors.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by shoot

... One more thing,the next time someone thinks about posting that 'coyotes are in his neighborhood' perhaps it should be rephrased to more correctly represent the truth maybe 'I am invading a coyote's neighborhood'.

Oh, snap! You told me, huh? Except for the part about what you're saying not being accurate. Coyotes have vastly increased their range since human settlement has taken over wild areas. Yeah, that's right. And the coyotes that have expanded into human territory are far more successful than coyotes in wild areas. What a raw deal for those poor coyotes, huh?

Please acquaint yourself with the facts before telling me what you think I should have posted.

[spudcon]

Originally Posted by shoot

I think cats are the real pest in all areas. They have decimated native bird populations til there are nothing left but starlings(an invasive species),in fact cats are classified as an invasive species and in some areas steps are being taken to control their populations. I know in Wisconsin it is legal to shoot cats on sight,the bird and rabbit populations are undergoing mass extinctions due almost entirely to cats. So instead of trying to curtail the coyotes appetite for felis domesticus,I motion that we encourage them. Lets toss around a few ideas,Ill start. Perhaps presenting injured or in someway immobilized cats would help,maybe even dabble some beef broth or gravy over them. A box full of newborn kittens is sure to please,again with the broth and gravy. Im sure there are others. One more thing,the next time someone thinks about posting that 'coyotes are in his neighborhood' perhaps it should be rephrased to more correctly represent the truth maybe 'I am invading a coyote's neighborhood'.

Shoot, I don't see any location on your post, but around here, cats keep the rodent population in check, and we still have plenty of songbirds. Coyotes, however, are a problem for dairy farmers and for those with small children. They wait for a cow to calf, and then take it. They weren't here first, they are a recent immigrant to this part of the country.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by spudcon

They weren't here first, they are a recent immigrant to this part of the country.

They might not have lived there first, but they arrived because you did. Easy pickings are always going to be great bait for scavengers and hunters alike and that's what human population provides animals like coyotes in your country, and dingos in mine.

[spudcon]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

They might not have lived there first, but they arrived because you did. Easy pickings are always going to be great bait for scavengers and hunters alike and that's what human population provides animals like coyotes in your country, and dingos in mine.

Nope, coyotes in this country are thriving and expanding their territory everywhere, despite culling and attempts to eradicate them. They are very successful at adapting.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by spudcon

Nope, coyotes in this country are thriving and expanding their territory everywhere, despite culling and attempts to eradicate them. They are very successful at adapting.

I think you misunderstood her. She was saying the same thing you are, coyotes and dingos thrive in the wake of people, because we generate good opportunities for them.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by spudcon

Nope, coyotes in this country are thriving and expanding their territory everywhere, despite culling and attempts to eradicate them. They are very successful at adapting.

Yes I realize that spudcon. My point is that it's not the coyotes fault that they're profitting from human habitation. You can't blame the coyote for doing what comes naturally. Sure you need to cull them etc, but the reason they're there is because humans are providing them with what they need.

[Cloud]

shoot, although your post is, (I hope) tongue in cheek, there are kernals of truth in it. Cats are omniverous predators. And I'm a big ol' cat person.

But imo, pet cats, unless they are farm ratters or something, they should be kept inside, both for their health, and for the health of small animal populations. Cat husbandry, is really in its infancy, compared to dogs. Did you know commercial cat litter was only invented in 1947?

A bigger problem, though, is that people don't spay and neuter the animals, and you get big feral cat populations, especially in cities. The feral cats and feral coyotes will have to work out their differences themselves.

and . . . people are the biggest pests of all.

[Aliantha]

I'm all for culling animals that become a pest, and it definitely is a fact that some native animals have profitted from human habitation of their areas. We have similar problems here with kangaroos for example although they don't pose a threat to people in general, unless you happen to hit one with your car at high speed.

We do have problems with feral cats too. They should all be shot. They are vicious and as has been mentioned they can totally ruin a natural environment. Cats also kill for fun, so they're doubly worse. I've been in some areas of native bushland before cats arrived and the sounds of the environment are loud and sweet. You see small animals scampering about and there's plenty of birdlife around. I've been back to the same place after it's been infested by feral cats and there's nothing but deadly silence and no signs of life except the glowing eyes watching you from the trees, and when I say eyes in the trees, I don't mean a few. I mean hundreds. They are a curse and they should be shot.

[Shawnee123]

I wandered into the wrong thread. I suddenly have an urge to spit a big chaw of tobacco onto the ground, wipe my nose with my sleeve, and say "ayup." Snort. Spit. Shoot.

[zewb]

I live near some undeveloped land and I can hear coyotes howl at night all the time. A few years ago I went out into my backyard and found half of a rabbit. I still cannot come up with a valid explanation to this. The yard showed no signs of a coyote getting in, and even if one did, why would it leave an entire half of its kill in my yard?