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Old 09-08-2007, 02:17 PM   #1
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I've heard that only 10-15% percent of voting age Americans agree with the Libertarian ideals so that could be another reason.

The two party system isn't going anywhere for a while anyways. The only hope is if someone like Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich wins in a Republican/Democrat seat when they really aren't one.
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:31 PM   #2
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Could someone explain the electoral college thing to me please? I've had it explained before but I can't recall the rationale behind it.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:32 PM   #3
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One major reason behind it is it makes corruption more difficult. Say I bribe a voting commissioner in my district and add 100,000 false votes for my guy into the system. Under a straight popular vote, I've added exactly 100,000 votes. Under the electoral college, I have swung exactly one state. Doesn't matter if I add a hundred thousand or a million, I still only get that one state's vote in the electoral college. To really make a difference I would need to bribe voting commissioners in multiple states, which is much harder.

On the other hand, when elections are as close as they've been in recent years, one state is usually all that matters nowadays.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:33 PM   #4
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United States Electoral College

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...ctoral_College
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:04 PM   #5
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I see. I guess ours isn't too disimilar, in that the result goes off how many seats a party wins rather than the number of votes cast overall.
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:15 PM   #6
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Libertarians are about personal responsibility and freedom, for reasons I cannot fathom many have issues with that concept.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:15 PM   #7
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But do they really change their positions or just their campaign strategy.
Good point. One of the problems with the current political culture (in my country and I suspect in yours also) is that instead of coming to a postion on something and then trying to sell that position, win the argument and secure people's support for your stance, parties and politicians try to work out what people will vote for and base their policy statements on that.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:55 PM   #8
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:29 PM   #9
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:33 PM   #10
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Bruce reads xkcd? *swoon*
Back o' the line honey, xoB already has an extensive fan club.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:36 PM   #11
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I'm quite aware jinxy...I can lust from afar...no way I'm competin' against the lovely ladies of the cellar for it anyway.
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:18 AM   #12
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A one dimensional analysis implies that a person closest to the center is the only good choice.
That's not what is says at all. It says the candidate that tailors his campaign promises closest to the peak of the voter curve will usually win, with two candidates.

@Razzmatazz13. Afar? Again? Why is it always from afar? sigh
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