Butthole barrages board with bullshit, gets busted by bruce - Page 2

Spexxvet · 08-22-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao

rk, you state you beliefs in the manner of 'should,' as in, 'this situation should be this way, according to me,' and then after you get appropriately strong responses, follow it up with, 'the other/opposite idea that you're expressing is stupid/meaningless/beneath me.' That's when you end up upsetting and annoying people.
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He's not the only one to do this, though.

elSicomoro · 08-22-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Is confusing?

No, but then you put down other people's beliefs, which makes you look like a jackoff. Carefully reread blue's first paragraph.

elSicomoro · 08-22-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

He's not the only one to do this, though.

Correct. We called tw out on this recently. Rob also posts a fuckton, and his style of posting detracts from the Cellar, IMO...and I suspect that I will get an amen from many other posters on this.

lumberjim · 08-22-2007, 09:35 AM

i don't really think he detracts from the board. maybe from some people's enjoyment of it, i guess....but he's a bit like having a current events forum spread all over the place. I said once that he should have his own forum where he could rant away but he got all offended. I only started this thread because I though bruce hit the nail right on the fucking head.

that said, i'd not ask him to leave.....just to be less of a butthole.

Stormieweather · 08-22-2007, 12:17 PM

I find it difficult to discuss anything with RK on the forums because my impression is that he's usually saying..."I'm right, you're wrong." And there really isn't anything left to say to someone with that type of attitude.

I much prefer to engage in conversation with someone who is actually listening to what I say with the willingness to learn from the exchange. But if everything I say is met with..nope, you're wrong...and stupid...not to mention you have a reading comprehension problem, I'll quietly back away and go find something else to do.

Stormie

Cicero · 08-22-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Some can't keep their emotions out of a normal conversation, that is sad for them, but not my fault.

I don't think any of your conversation topics or views could be construed as normality. You usually can't even understand the scope and the breadth of the topics you yourself bring up, and start calling people names when they avidly disagree with you. Like,"sexist". I think of anyone, you are the one that gets out of hand, hiding behind a veil of loose, mainstream, and quite abnormal logic and ideas. You explain in great detail, common and specious thought. As if you've illuminated something that other people don't get. There would be nothing wrong with that if you would listen to people and know why they are asking the questions they ask- not to annoy you- but to let you arrive at the correct conclusion on your own....but you don't get it. Maybe your IQ is 170....not sure....but I have not seen great evidence of this. Genius's make connections where others cannot. I have not seen one shred of evidence that you ever have done this here on the cellar.
I don't believe your IQ is 170. I believe it's your opinion. Again.

I really don't care however, because you are a constant amusement.

I am not saying any of this to make you angry....I think you think about (if you so choose), spending more time reading and considering the views of others. Not mine of course, because I apparently leave a bad taste in your mouth. The ones that you have grown to respect on this board. If anyone, I guess we'll be finding out.

DanaC · 08-22-2007, 02:30 PM

I've had some good debates with rk on some stuff. He doesn't always follow the I'm right-You're wrong style, though of late this seems to be more the case. I believe he adds to, more than he detracts from, this community.

I also think there are times when he adds a certain insight that is uniquely his, just as we all do. Yes he can be a total dick at times...but then again so can most of us.

I know one thing though. There have been times in my life when I have been wrong on something (no? really? I hear you say, we'll not believe it, say it ain't so) and have continued to argue the case vehemently...despite and perhaps even because, a group of people disagreed with me (rghtly so) very vocally. Having firmly mounted my high horse, I found it very difficult to climb back down off it.

Just a thought.

Aliantha · 08-22-2007, 05:01 PM

I also know for a fact that rkz sometimes posts more extreme points of view because he's not really in control of himself because of the pain he's in. This leads to him being a lot more aggressive at times than he would otherwise have been.

I've pm'd him about what i've thought to be uncalled for responses and he's apologized saying that he didn't mean to sound that way etc.

Give the man a break would you. Don't be such a bunch of hypocrits.

08-22-2007, 05:29 PM

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I don't believe your IQ is 170. I believe it's your opinion. Again.

How many times do I have to say that I think that number is bullshit? Again, it says a lot when people fixate on that number when I state that I know it is wrong.
I have recently apologized when I think I have been rude and will again if it is true.
Don't like me or my threads. why do you keep arguing with me (general question)?

smurfalicious · 08-22-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Give the man a break would you. Don't be such a bunch of hypocrits.

give him a break? seriously???

HE should be in control of HIMself, and act like an adult. not grown up enough to carry on adult conversations without being a dick? don't participate.

it's not right that everyone else suffer his abuse. not my fault he's in the situation he's in.

misdirected anger.

Stormieweather · 08-22-2007, 07:37 PM

Actually, I do like you...a lot. I don't necessarily agree with everything you post. But lately I sense quite a bit of hostility and contempt in your responses on this board and I am just not interested in putting my neck on your chopping block (althought the topic may interest me).

It's not just you, I'm not the kind of person you'll find swapping insults with or attacking anyone...IRL or on a message board. I do enjoy a thoughtful debate or exchange of ideas, and I do find many of those here, but in general I try to avoid getting involved with aggressive communicators.

In addition, the things I'm passionate about are things I deeply care about...so yeah, my emotions are involved. Issues that do not involve my emotions are usually those I'm more than a little indifferent or apathetic about. Personally, I think that an emotionally charged, intelligent debate is much more powerful than one from a purely intellectual point of view. More interesting too. So you and I differ on that aspect as well.

Stormie

DucksNuts · 08-22-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smurfalicious

it's not right that everyone else suffer his abuse. not my fault he's in the situation he's in.

misdirected anger.

Meh - I think that is harsh.

I dont see abuse, and *everyone* else?...gimme a break. RK is not running around the board throwing abuse around willy-nilly at anyone standing still.

He may be narrow minded on things *he* believes in, and I do agree with Stormie, that its hard to have a debate with someone who isnt receptive to other opinions......but abuse and misdirected anger? nup.

I dont agree with a lot of RK's opinions, but I appreciate some of the things he brings to my attention that I may otherwise miss.

jinx · 08-22-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I have recently apologized when I think I have been rude and will again if it is true.

I've read this in a couple of threads now - you saying that you've apologized, and I'm curious. Is this it? Or was it somewhere else? If so, can you gimme the link?

yesman065 · 08-22-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts

Meh - I think that is harsh.
I dont agree with a lot of RK's opinions, but I appreciate some of the things he brings to my attention that I may otherwise miss.

I appreciate that from him the most as we are such polar opposites on so many things. At times he goes overboard, yes, but his opinions offer an insight that is typically so foreign to mine that it sometimes opens intriguing perspectives.
He is certainly, IMO, not the most demeaning poster on the cellar.

lumberjim · 08-22-2007, 09:59 PM

who is, then, you little bitch?

08-22-2007, 09:35 AM	#19
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	i don't really think he detracts from the board. maybe from some people's enjoyment of it, i guess....but he's a bit like having a current events forum spread all over the place. I said once that he should have his own forum where he could rant away but he got all offended. I only started this thread because I though bruce hit the nail right on the fucking head. that said, i'd not ask him to leave.....just to be less of a butthole. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan Last edited by lumberjim; 08-22-2007 at 09:54 AM. Reason: add linkie

08-22-2007, 12:17 PM	#20
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	I find it difficult to discuss anything with RK on the forums because my impression is that he's usually saying..."I'm right, you're wrong." And there really isn't anything left to say to someone with that type of attitude. I much prefer to engage in conversation with someone who is actually listening to what I say with the willingness to learn from the exchange. But if everything I say is met with..nope, you're wrong...and stupid...not to mention you have a reading comprehension problem, I'll quietly back away and go find something else to do. Stormie __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

08-22-2007, 05:01 PM	#23
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I also know for a fact that rkz sometimes posts more extreme points of view because he's not really in control of himself because of the pain he's in. This leads to him being a lot more aggressive at times than he would otherwise have been. I've pm'd him about what i've thought to be uncalled for responses and he's apologized saying that he didn't mean to sound that way etc. Give the man a break would you. Don't be such a bunch of hypocrits. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

08-22-2007, 07:37 PM	#26
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	Actually, I do like you...a lot. I don't necessarily agree with everything you post. But lately I sense quite a bit of hostility and contempt in your responses on this board and I am just not interested in putting my neck on your chopping block (althought the topic may interest me). It's not just you, I'm not the kind of person you'll find swapping insults with or attacking anyone...IRL or on a message board. I do enjoy a thoughtful debate or exchange of ideas, and I do find many of those here, but in general I try to avoid getting involved with aggressive communicators. In addition, the things I'm passionate about are things I deeply care about...so yeah, my emotions are involved. Issues that do not involve my emotions are usually those I'm more than a little indifferent or apathetic about. Personally, I think that an emotionally charged, intelligent debate is much more powerful than one from a purely intellectual point of view. More interesting too. So you and I differ on that aspect as well. Stormie __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

08-22-2007, 09:59 PM	#30
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	who is, then, you little bitch? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

08-22-2007, 02:30 PM	#22
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I've had some good debates with rk on some stuff. He doesn't always follow the I'm right-You're wrong style, though of late this seems to be more the case. I believe he adds to, more than he detracts from, this community. I also think there are times when he adds a certain insight that is uniquely his, just as we all do. Yes he can be a total dick at times...but then again so can most of us. I know one thing though. There have been times in my life when I have been wrong on something (no? really? I hear you say, we'll not believe it, say it ain't so) and have continued to argue the case vehemently...despite and perhaps even because, a group of people disagreed with me (rghtly so) very vocally. Having firmly mounted my high horse, I found it very difficult to climb back down off it. Just a thought.

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