Stubborn People Suck - Page 2

freshnesschronic · 06-25-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You fail to consider that your position on your argument could be wrong, therefore you may just be a part of the 10% that fails to bend to reason.

Knew it was coming. But I do know when I'm wrong once I realize it, I am not overly stubborn. And that's not just me being stubborn and saying I'm not.

Shawnee123 · 06-25-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

know when I'm wrong once I realize it, .

I know I'm wrong once I realize it, too.

So is it still being stubborn if you don't realize that you're wrong, or are you stubborn if you fail to realize that you're wrong if you really don't think you're wrong, or does not realizing mean that you're not wrong or is being wrong the absence of realization...etc and so on?

TheMercenary · 06-27-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I know I'm wrong once I realize it, too.

So is it still being stubborn if you don't realize that you're wrong, or are you stubborn if you fail to realize that you're wrong if you really don't think you're wrong, or does not realizing mean that you're not wrong or is being wrong the absence of realization...etc and so on?

I was wrong... once.

Cloud · 06-25-2007, 01:04 PM

arguments never convince anyone of anything. Give up trying, you're only causing yourself grief.

LabRat · 06-25-2007, 02:39 PM

No, stubborn people tell their husbands to stuff it, then hand them the lotion.

14 hours, and I'm the first one to post a play on words this easy? C'mon. Stop staying up all night with Sundae, it's slowing you guys down

elSicomoro · 06-25-2007, 05:38 PM

Well, good thing I have April then...mmmm...pork chops...*drools*

Aliantha · 06-25-2007, 10:09 PM

now......time for you to make waking your husband up with you farts sound cute.

He gets out of bed with a smile on his face every day. I think that's all that matters.

freshnesschronic · 06-26-2007, 12:16 AM

lumberman, I never knew you were so kind... I'm tearing up right now.

06-27-2007, 12:48 AM

I will concede a point, and have in here, if shown facts or rational points clearly and succinctly. I will thank you for showing me the error of my ways and/or apologize for any transgression graciously.

However, if you/they just make your "point" emotionally and state that I should change because you REALLY believe something or REALLY want me to and bla..bla...bla... (your stuff that ends-up meaning you just want to, or think you should win the argument/disagreement because it is "important" to you) ain't gonna' happen.
No amount of anything is going to budge me, I have the patience of Job and will not emotionally invest no matter what you bring into it.
It has nothing to do with being stubborn.
It has to do with refusing to be manipulated and refusing to set that precedent for the future.

skysidhe · 06-27-2007, 11:04 AM

UT _OH I am sure I can be stubborn but that's when I think I am 100% right.

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I will concede a point, and have in here, if shown facts or rational points clearly and succinctly. I will thank you for showing me the error of my ways and/or apologize for any transgression graciously.

However, if you/they just make your "point" emotionally and state that I should change because you REALLY believe something or REALLY want me to and bla..bla...bla...

No amount of anything is going to budge me, I have the patience of Job and will not emotionally invest no matter what you bring into it.
It has nothing to do with being stubborn.

It has to do with refusing to be manipulated and refusing to set that precedent for the future.

ahh the voice of reason...amen to that rk

I think one has to consider how often a person tells you they are right and you are wrong.
Is it just one issue? Everyday? Maybe there is a shared blame fresh?

I don't really think people can make blanket statements like that and be right. Somepeople just don't know how to be wrong and change for the better.

Those people I drop like a bad habit.

TheMercenary · 06-27-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I will concede a point, and have in here, if shown facts or rational points clearly and succinctly. I will thank you for showing me the error of my ways and/or apologize for any transgression graciously..

Where the Hell have you ever done that? Just interested.

06-28-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Where the Hell have you ever done that? Just interested.

I do it all the time. Did so very recently. Not sure what thread it was in.

06-27-2007, 11:31 AM

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No, stubborn people tell their husbands to stuff it, then hand them the lotion.

Really? If that was the attitude taken the "stubborn person" in question would get left behind if that was a normal response.
No sex is not an option.

Cicero · 06-27-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Is there a personality disorder for extremely stubborn people who might never realize that they are wrong? I hate it when I have to give up my argument because they are too much of a blockhead to budge and even see someone else's view. I think it should be diagnosed.

No, but thank you. I just made up "diagnosis-itis" and you were the inspiration! (also roughly based on Gestalt theory.

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06-27-2007, 11:38 AM

I have known bi-polar people to have severe issues with changing their stance on disagreements.
Mildly autistic individuals also, they tend to be obsessive and dislike change. Once they have an opinion they are not likely to alter it.
I have a couple in my family.

06-25-2007, 01:04 PM	#4
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	arguments never convince anyone of anything. Give up trying, you're only causing yourself grief. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

06-25-2007, 02:39 PM	#5
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	No, stubborn people tell their husbands to stuff it, then hand them the lotion. 14 hours, and I'm the first one to post a play on words this easy? C'mon. Stop staying up all night with Sundae, it's slowing you guys down __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

06-25-2007, 10:09 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	now......time for you to make waking your husband up with you farts sound cute. He gets out of bed with a smile on his face every day. I think that's all that matters. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-25-2007, 05:38 PM	#6
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Well, good thing I have April then...mmmm...pork chops...drools

06-26-2007, 12:16 AM	#8
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	lumberman, I never knew you were so kind... I'm tearing up right now.

06-27-2007, 12:48 AM	#9
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I will concede a point, and have in here, if shown facts or rational points clearly and succinctly. I will thank you for showing me the error of my ways and/or apologize for any transgression graciously. However, if you/they just make your "point" emotionally and state that I should change because you REALLY believe something or REALLY want me to and bla..bla...bla... (your stuff that ends-up meaning you just want to, or think you should win the argument/disagreement because it is "important" to you) ain't gonna' happen. No amount of anything is going to budge me, I have the patience of Job and will not emotionally invest no matter what you bring into it. It has nothing to do with being stubborn. It has to do with refusing to be manipulated and refusing to set that precedent for the future.

06-27-2007, 11:38 AM	#15
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I have known bi-polar people to have severe issues with changing their stance on disagreements. Mildly autistic individuals also, they tend to be obsessive and dislike change. Once they have an opinion they are not likely to alter it. I have a couple in my family.

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