Al-Qaeda seeks to expand its operations

[TheMercenary]

I think it goes back a long way before that.

[piercehawkeye45]

There are others like it.

Why do you like to try to force me to an extremist view when I don't have that?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Why do you like to try to force me to an extremist view when I don't have that?

I don't have an extremist view either. I am not forcing you into anything.

[TheMercenary]

Al-Qaeda ‘planning big British attack’

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1687360.ece

[deadbeater]

Merc, al-Qaeda are always planning something or another. It is up to the US, England and others to counter them, or eliminate the threat entirely in a way that doesn't create more terrorists in turn. I must say that Bush is the biggest recruiter of terrorists.

[duck_duck]

The only way the americans would not recruit terrorists is to surrender and kill themselves.

[deadbeater]

No, there are more effective ways, better than what America is doing and certainly better than what Russia is doing re Chechyans.

[duck_duck]

Like what?

[deadbeater]

Such as

1) not attacking another country, diluting resorces in the process, and in so doing creating a vacuum filled by the enemy.

2) Not attacking schools, then crying why the terrorists are attacking your schools in return.

[duck_duck]

How many muslim nations and schools did america invade that caused the 9/11 attacks?

[Ibby]

Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq Mk. I (actually that probably didnt piss them off a whole lot, they didn't like Saddam any more than we did)...

Osama used to be our friend against the Reds in Afghanistan. Then he asked us nicely if we could kinda pull out of some musilm holy land, like in saudi arabia.

We said "FUCK YOU COCKSUCKER!" and ignored him.
He got pissed.


I'm not saying he's right, but theres the motivation right there.

[duck_duck]

When did the americans invade saudi arabia, pakistan and egypt?

[piercehawkeye45]

Sort through this. A timeline of US intervention in other countries since 1945.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bl...ns_WBlumZ.html

Edit- This is at 1999 so it won't have post 9/11 interventions.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Sort through this. A timeline of US intervention in other countries since 1945.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bl...ns_WBlumZ.html

Edit- This is at 1999 so it won't have post 9/11 interventions.

Some of the language used in that articles suggests a bit of biased from the author. So I wonder how much of it is true or embellished.

[Ibby]

Libya, 1981-89:
Libya refused to be a proper Middle East client state of Washington. Its leader, Muammar el-Qaddafi, was uppity. He would have to be punished. U.S. planes shot down two Libyan planes in what Libya regarded as its air space. The U. S . also dropped bombs on the country, killing at least 40 people, including Qaddafi's daughter. There were other attempts to assassinate the man, operations to overthrow him, a major disinformation campaign, economic sanctions, and blaming Libya for being behind the Pan Am 103 bombing without any good evidence.

Afghanistan, 1979-92:
Everyone knows of the unbelievable repression of women in Afghanistan, carried out by Islamic fundamentalists, even before the Taliban. But how many people know that during the late 1970s and most of the 1980s, Afghanistan had a government committed to bringing the incredibly backward nation into the 20th century, including giving women equal rights? What happened, however, is that the United States poured billions of dollars into waging a terrible war against this government, simply because it was supported by the Soviet Union. Prior to this, CIA operations had knowingly increased the probability of a Soviet intervention, which is what occurred. In the end, the United States won, and the women, and the rest of Afghanistan, lost. More than a million dead, three million disabled, five million refugees, in total about half the population.

And there have been US troops stationed in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, all over the place for a long time. If you ask Al-Qaeda, they arent invited guests - theyre invading occupiers taking their hospitality at gunpoint.