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View Poll Results: Which is worse for an individual and society?
Alcohol 34 91.89%
Marijuana 3 8.11%
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Old 03-16-2007, 02:28 AM   #1
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Now what about acid?
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:24 AM   #2
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Now what about acid?
I've never done acid. As I understand it, acid makes schizophrenic people normal, and normal people pschysophrenic. If you lose touch with reality, you might think you can fly, or that an innocent bystander is an alien who needs to be killed. You might cause harm to yourself and/or others.
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:02 AM   #3
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A friend of mine has smoked every day for the last 27 years. He's the most intelligent person I know.
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:10 AM   #4
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A friend of mine has smoked every day for the last 27 years. He's the most intelligent person I know.

Why thanks, UT.

JUST KIDDING...I KID!

There is really no contest here:

Alcohol:

1)Prolonged, heavy use of alcohol can lead to addiction (alcoholism).
2)Sudden cessation of long term, extensive alcohol intake is likely to produce withdrawal symptoms, including severe anxiety, tremors, hallucinations and convulsions.
3)Long-term effects of consuming large quantities of alcohol, especially when combined with poor nutrition, can lead to permanent damage to vital organs such as the brain and liver.
4)In addition, research indicates that children of alcoholic parents are at greater risk than other children of becoming alcoholics.

Marijuana:

Marijuana smoke contains some of the same cancer-causing compounds as tobacco, sometimes in higher concentrations.Studies show that someone who smokes five joints per week may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day.

From here.

These are from the long term effects sections from the Partnership for a Drug Free America. Source is National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA).

The alcohol section is excerpted. The marijuana section is not. That's the most they could say.

Now, pass the bowl.
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:11 AM   #5
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Then again, a friend of mine has smoked every day for the last 30+ years, and he rarely leaves his house except to go to work.
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:13 AM   #6
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Then again, a friend of mine has smoked every day for the last 30+ years, and he rarely leaves his house except to go to work.
Can I get his address please? :p
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:25 AM   #7
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Can I get his address please? :p
Only if you pay me a conjugal visit when you're in town to get squiffed. :p
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:30 AM   #8
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Only if you pay me a conjugal visit when you're in town to get squiffed. :p
Eh, why not? I never said I didn't have a price.
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:06 AM   #9
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A friend of mine has smoked every day for the last 27 years. He's the most intelligent person I know.
Does his name start with XOXOXO?
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:37 AM   #10
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Pot is better. But try loading your car with it when the cops are around and they kind of pissy about it. Where as, if you load your car up with vodka, they don't even blink.
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:44 AM   #11
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My drugs of choice is food (amphetamines and opiates are nice, too). Every bit as dangerous as pot or booze.

Like Aliantha said, my motto is everything moderation (including moderation).
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Old 03-17-2007, 04:24 PM   #12
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I don't think smoking some weed will result in driving north in the southbound lanes of an interstate.
Neither will drinking some alcohol.
There a consequences to all excesses from water to heroin.
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lol...sounds like a trip (yep, that was a drug reference). Now that we're on the subject, what about acid? Is is worse than booze or pot?
Alcohol is the toughest on the body. The others are a toss up, acid won't ruin your lungs, pot rarely gives you flashbacks.
Oh, and people that try to fly off tall buildings, not the acid, they're just nuts.

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A friend of mine has smoked every day for the last 27 years. He's the most intelligent person I know.
I know some people that smoke regularly and are dumb as rocks. I don't think the pot effects either.
If you look long and hard you'll find some sort of tie, either coincidental or similar, between any substance and any ailment in the world.
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Old 03-20-2007, 12:51 AM   #13
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A friend of mine has smoked every day for the last 27 years. He's the most intelligent person I know.
A "friend," eh?

Worse or not, alcohol is legal.

From my own personal experience ... I do admit that I have never sent anyone to rehab just for smoking the weed.

From my own personal experience ... Weed can be an awful lot of fun. However, once I found out that I wanted to move on to a new activity and couldn't, I was done with the weed. Permanently.
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:59 AM   #14
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A "friend," eh?
Not me, honest! If it was me I would reply with the blushing smilie.

And as far as demotivation goes, this guy is exactly the opposite - it motivates him. I think demotivation is the primary problem with weed, and a lot of people have real trouble with it, but this guy proves, we're all wired a little differently. He gets a TON of stuff done all day, then he smokes at night, every night, goes to bed stoned then wakes up early to another big day.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:31 AM   #15
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... I think demotivation is the primary problem with weed, and a lot of people have real trouble with it...
Back when I smoked a lot of pot, I wanted to overcome this problem, but decided it was much more important to laugh at the TV and order people to bring me beer and junk food.
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