ID Sticker Settlement In Cobb County - Page 2

CaliforniaMama · 01-03-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

And, ID should never be part of the curriculum.

By the same token, though, it shouldn't be absolutely ruled out, either, which is I think what happens in some classrooms.

Meaning that because a teacher is teaching evolution, they should not be able to declare that evolution means that God or no higher power was involved.

If we're going to keep faith or belief in God/Higher Power out of the equation, it has to stay all the way out.

Happy Monkey · 01-03-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaMama

By the same token, though, it shouldn't be absolutely ruled out, either, which is I think what happens in some classrooms.

"ID" should be absolutely ruled out, because it is a lie. It is pretending to be science in order to try to weasel its way into public schools, and it is in no way science.

Aliantha · 01-01-2007, 06:23 PM

As I said though, education is about teaching kids how to learn, not just giving expository lessons. Discuss the idea, but that's very far from teaching the theory as a fact. It could even be used to show the difference between a theory and a fact. If it were against the law to discuss it though, this would not be possible.

Clodfobble · 01-01-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

What I don't understand is, if they don't like secularism, why don't they send their kids to a Christian school?

At least one consideration for some is that Christian schools cost money, and secular (public) schools don't.

Aliantha · 01-01-2007, 08:21 PM

Do you not have private schools which are not run by a church over there?

xoxoxoBruce · 01-01-2007, 09:19 PM

Yes, and they're expensive.... in addition to paying for public schools through taxes. If you're going to teach..oh, make that discuss, religion in school, how many of the 10,000 religions are you going to discuss?
10 minutes on each religion is 100,000 minutes.
A 180 day year, with a typical 50 minute period, is 9,000 minutes.
So, if you spend 11.1 hours, every school day, you can do that. But somehow I think the science and other subjects would suffer.

CaliforniaMama · 01-03-2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Yes, and they're expensive.... in addition to paying for public schools through taxes.

Side rant: Which is why each child should get their allotment of state/federal funding to be applied to whatever form of education their parents prefer. It seems like the most fair way for children of all economic levels to have a shot at religious private school, secular private school, public school or home school. As it is too many kids are stuck with a mediocre system and without the ability to bargain for something better.

Yeah, yeah, I know, then the public system would go kaputs . . . would that really be a bad thing?

Aliantha · 01-01-2007, 09:35 PM

Bruce, I'm not suggesting that any of these things SHOULD be discussed or included as a part of general curriculum, but when it comes to the best way to teach kids, the more you have to work with the better.

All I'm suggesting is that they shouldn't be banned, so that if, during the course of a lesson the subject comes up, the teacher doesn't have to 'not answer' questions or should dissuade discussion.

Of course, some teachers will abuse the system and use it as their own little soap box, but then there are the teachers who truly wish to give kids something to think about, and maybe expand their horizons a little.

Surely that makes sense to you?

01-01-2007, 06:23 PM	#3
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	As I said though, education is about teaching kids how to learn, not just giving expository lessons. Discuss the idea, but that's very far from teaching the theory as a fact. It could even be used to show the difference between a theory and a fact. If it were against the law to discuss it though, this would not be possible. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-01-2007, 08:21 PM	#5
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Do you not have private schools which are not run by a church over there? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-01-2007, 09:19 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yes, and they're expensive.... in addition to paying for public schools through taxes. If you're going to teach..oh, make that discuss, religion in school, how many of the 10,000 religions are you going to discuss? 10 minutes on each religion is 100,000 minutes. A 180 day year, with a typical 50 minute period, is 9,000 minutes. So, if you spend 11.1 hours, every school day, you can do that. But somehow I think the science and other subjects would suffer. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-01-2007, 09:35 PM	#8
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Bruce, I'm not suggesting that any of these things SHOULD be discussed or included as a part of general curriculum, but when it comes to the best way to teach kids, the more you have to work with the better. All I'm suggesting is that they shouldn't be banned, so that if, during the course of a lesson the subject comes up, the teacher doesn't have to 'not answer' questions or should dissuade discussion. Of course, some teachers will abuse the system and use it as their own little soap box, but then there are the teachers who truly wish to give kids something to think about, and maybe expand their horizons a little. Surely that makes sense to you? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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