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Trilby · 12-08-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by marichiko

I saw the suffering the man who had molested children was enduring

ah, there we are!

DanaC · 12-08-2006, 10:12 AM

*Smiles* such a pity you never actually did suffer CO poisoning; some of your posts would improve I'm sure.

dar512 · 12-08-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

ah, there we are!

Holy shit, Brianna. That was taken way out of context.

Not completely quoted.
Original quote was presented theoretically.
From another thread -- where the discussion concerned GWB.

If you're going to fight. Fight fair.

Trilby · 12-08-2006, 10:29 AM

Ah--why should I?

Dana taught me all about taking texts out of context. She's pretty evil.

glatt · 12-08-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

*waits patiently for the morally superior among us to defend this misunderstood man's heartbreaking plight*

wonder how long it'll take?

If society deems that his crimes are deserving of x number of years of incarceration, then he should be free to live his life after serving that time. However, I think the primary role of the justice system should be to protect society from criminals. With the extremely high rate of recidivism for this type of crime, I would not support letting him back into society. It's too great a risk.

I don't approve of the death penalty, so I wouldn't support killing him. That leaves some sort of segregation from the rest of us. Prison seems kind of harsh, because he's already served his time. I wish there were still penal colonies. Send these fuckers to one of those to live free on a big island.

A fair solution would let him live his life in peace after serving his time, and also protect society. Too bad you can't have both here.

DanaC · 12-08-2006, 10:45 AM

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Dana taught me all about taking texts out of context. She's pretty evil.

Aheh.....I am evil.

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A fair solution would let him live his life in peace after serving his time, and also protect society. Too bad you can't have both here.

I think that's very well stated.

Trilby · 12-08-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Aheh.....I am evil.

You don't have to tell me!

Are you obsessed with me, Dana? You keep following me around.

DanaC · 12-08-2006, 10:48 AM

You are starting to sound a little paranoid.

dar512 · 12-08-2006, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

Ah--why should I?

Dana taught me all about taking texts out of context. She's pretty evil.

Would you accept this tripe from one of your kids? "Bobby did it first!"

wolf · 12-08-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

NYS is looking at permanent incarceration for these guys. If there is no "cure" what choice is there? Is it possible to track them 24-7-365?

Unless you actually have them chained to someone, merely tracking them won't keep them from re-offending.

wolf · 12-08-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

Send these fuckers to one of those to live free on a big island.

Prison with a longer walk to the fence line.

As disgusted as I am, I wouldn't kill him. But letting molesters out is a very big mistake.

Putting molesters in community-based group homes is also a mistake. Although they risk going back to jail if they get caught doing something that violates their probation, this rarely happens. As a bonus they get to be involved in group and individual therapy in which they discuss the details of their offenses, again and again. For the participants whose turn it is to listen to the speaker, this is better than a 900 number, because the state's paying for it. I honestly don't get how staff at these places continue to stay there. Turnover is pretty high. Some of the duties can be interesting ... room checks looking for Walmart and KMart advertising flyers, for example.

DanaC · 12-08-2006, 12:59 PM

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As a bonus they get to be involved in group and individual therapy in which they discuss the details of their offenses, again and again. For the participants whose turn it is to listen to the speaker, this is better than a 900 number

That's an interesting way of looking at their therapy sessions. Certainly made me think.

wolf · 12-08-2006, 01:12 PM

Most "treatment professionals" don't get that this is really what's going on. It's also known as "refining one's technique."

DanaC · 12-08-2006, 01:15 PM

*nods*

I can easily see how that could make 'treating' them a bit of a tightrope.

Pie · 12-08-2006, 04:32 PM

Question: does chemical or physical castration prevent the desire to re-offend? Is this a possibility (for those who agree to it as a term of their release)?

12-08-2006, 10:29 AM	#19
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12-08-2006, 01:12 PM	#28
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12-08-2006, 04:32 PM	#30
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Question: does chemical or physical castration prevent the desire to re-offend? Is this a possibility (for those who agree to it as a term of their release)? __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

12-08-2006, 10:12 AM	#17
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Smiles such a pity you never actually did suffer CO poisoning; some of your posts would improve I'm sure.

12-08-2006, 10:48 AM	#23
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	You are starting to sound a little paranoid.

12-08-2006, 01:15 PM	#29
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	nods I can easily see how that could make 'treating' them a bit of a tightrope.

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